Was Donald Trump different to any other president?

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Was Trump different to any other President?

  1. Yes, radically so

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  2. To a degree

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  3. Not really

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    7.1%
  4. Not at all

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  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    For my money, yes slightly, he was very much the Washington outsider and didn't conform to the traditional style of leadership, the reason many voted for him in the first place but proved a huge problem in office.
     
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    When you mash all the air bubbles out of it, I think Trump was trying to re-create the United States that existed prior to the year 2000. He gave it a very energetic effort, but he was reckless, made enemies (even among political allies), and ultimately, "bit off more than he could chew".

    When WAS 'America great'...? "Greatness" is like that beauty-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder thing -- but most might agree it was between about 1952 through 1965, and then again during the "Reagan years", beginning in 1981.

    After Reagan, we coasted downhill with various kinds of increasing problems, because of Daddy Bush and liberal-Democrat, Bill Clinton... and then we went into a REAL downhill 'death-spiral' beginning, oddly, with the "9/11" event. Now look at this mess we're in...!

    Maybe ol' bin-Laden was successful in slapping some kind of a curse on us after all....

    [​IMG]. "And now it sucks to be YOU...!" :twisted:
     
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    I'm not a student of history but does anyone know of another President who tried to overthrow the government so he could continue building his dictatorship?
     
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    In my opinion, Trump doesn't care about America. He's an extreme egomaniac who only does what is to his advantage. In politics, he found the ideal playground to indulge his personal cravings for fame.

    Trump's life is the life of a gangster, full of trickery and lies. And so was his political career, up to his attempt to overthrow the election and sending his violent mob towards Capitol Hill. :(
     
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    As a German, I admire the United States for its resistance to totalitarianism. I think that's because the US is a multi-ethnic state. That keeps it strong and flexible.

    Therefore be on your guard against anyone who claims racial superiority. :)

     
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    Without a doubt, OBL is laughing at the bottom of the ocean at what has become of the USA.
     
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    Of course he was different. He spoke into the microphone like a shock jock. He said whatever was on his mind regardless of repercussions...
     
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    OBL is dead and forgotten. Be aware of your living enemies. Pootin did install DJT as US Prez. And he did it for a reason. He wanted to destroy American society. Trump was his puppet to accomplish this. :(
     
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    The People are getting tired of outright lying professional politicians. When they feel the ballot box is too rigged there's no telling.
     
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    Absolutely. My comment is simply reality. The 9/11 attacks weren't so much a military tactical success as they were an effective terrorist incident with an aim at starting the process to our own demise. While I'm no historian, I believe there is a case to be made that the 9/11 attacks prepped us for the divisions that we see today.
     
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    Liberal Democrats gave us Trump when they got so far left they couldn't hear voices complaining from the middle right out.
     
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    None of the first 45 did that - Biden’s term isn’t over yet. (or maybe it is, :lol: )
     
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    Oh, Pootski installed Trump? Then who "installed" Kanzlerin Merkel in Deutschland? I notice that she seemed to "get in bed" with Vlad to get cheap naturgas from the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, but at no point did Trump do anything like that.... Also, wer ist ein "hampelman"...(puppet).
     
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    I think Trump was radically different. Not necessarily in a bad way.

    Maybe the establishment in the USA should sit up and take notice as to why 75 million voters would prefer Trump America to the one that the established politicians offer ...

    A bit like Brexit, we were angry with the system, unfortunately for us, even though The Brexit vote won, the reason why we did seems to have been lost somewhat....
     
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    Yes, President Trump was different to any other president.

    President Trump is man with great and unmatched wisdom who did unbelievable things in this country:

    He convinced 74 million Americans that Mexico will pay for the wall
    After convincing 74 million Americans that Mexico will pay for the wall, he convinced them that US Army should pay for the wall
    He convinced 74 million Americans that he will reveal his tax returns
    After convincing 74 million Americans that he will reveal his tax returns he convinced them they don’t want to see his tax returns
    He convinced 74 million Americans that PERMANENT 14% tax cut he made for himself and his wealthy friends was not good for him but 2-4% TEMPORARY tax cut for American workers was very good for them.

    He convinced 74 million Americans that he lost 2016 popular vote because of millions of illegal votes.
    He convinced 74 million Americans to trust KGB officer and not the CIA/FBI
    He convinced 74 million Americans that putting lobbyist in his administration will drain the swamp
    https://www.opensecrets.org/trump/lobbyists

    He convinced 74 million Americans that there is nothing wrong with helping Chinese ZTE corporation after China invested a half billion dollars in a project from which Trump will benefits:
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/15/17355202/trump-zte-indonesia-lido-city

    He convinced 74 million Americans that after stopping the military aid to Ukraine he asked Ukraine president to investigate the son of his political opponent because…because he was fighting corruption.
    He convinced 74 million Americans that the coronavirus is Democrats hoax.
    He convinced 74 million Americans that the coronavirus miraculously will disappear in April,
    He convinced 74 million Americans that we betrayed Kurds fighters because they didn’t help us in WWII on Normandy landing.
    He convinced 74 million Americans that we need herd mentality to fight the coronavirus


    He convinced 74 million Americans that windmills cause cancer
    He convinced 74 million Americans that to fight the coronavirus we need to take injections with disinfectants and expose ourselves to the UV light
    He convinced 74 million Americans that he lost 2020 elections because of fraud.

    Yes, President Donald Trump is different to any other president! He is a f***en GENIUS!
     
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    Our Mutti Merkel is the most popular head of state in Europe. And I think she'll get along very well with Joe, unlike Trump.
    https://www.forbes.com/profile/angela-merkel/?sh=2d6e003322dd
    :)
     
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    The only President I can think off who did that was Lincoln?
     
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    Surely they brought the country together?
     
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    I think most Republican voters liked Trump's politics but find him loathsome as a person.

     
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    Yes, Kanzlerin Merkel is popular... because the CDU has spread itself out to include many more "gut Menschen" of the far, far radical Left. I wasn't mentioning her "popularity", which has nothing to do with what you said.

    I see you did not want to speak at all about Merkel being so "cozy" with Putin on Nord Stream 2, and yet you somehow think that Putin "installed" Trump into the American presidency? Warum sagen Sie das? Eigentlich, das ist Wahnsinn! (Why would you say that? It makes no sense at all.)
     
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    The problem comes when MAGA thinks THIS is middle-right ...

    capitol-insurrection-trump-flags-gty-img.jpg
     
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    Merkel only thinks economically in this case. Russkie gas is cheap.
    I also don't like her doing business with a dictator pointing his nuclear missiles at us. :(

    Russian troll brigades on Putin's behalf promoted Trump for the 2016 presidential election. And Trump was very grateful for that all along.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Of course it is. Center right has as many volatile individuals as center left. Those people took their grievance to Washington instead of the local appliance/liquor/shoe stores.
     
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    Obama?
     
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