Was Trump Too Tough On Biden?

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  1. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    President Trump pulled no punches in his inauguration speech as he scolded President Biden. Did Trump go too far in public with Biden just several feet away? Was there a nicer way to say those things? To some extent it made me uneasy but after a day has passed, and I have thought about it, I now say that Biden got what he deserved. Biden was a horrible president who hurt the USA. Trump only pointed out the facts. We need a plain-spoken man in the White House and at last we got one. We may not like what he says but we'll know what he thinks.
     
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    Trump is an elderly, twice-impeached, convicted felon, sexual abuser, and business fraud. He registered 34% public approval when he was booted from office in 2020.

    Biden is elderly. His final public approval was 37%.

    Trump's goobers failed to concoct any charges against Biden.
     
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    After Biden pardoned his whole family, he got what he deserved. Trump didn’t know Biden had done it, but Biden now has excuses. Nixon was dishonest, but Biden has gone beyond one upping him.
     
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    Interesting things to remember:

    1. Having been pardoned by their "Godfather" Joe, now all the other members of the Biden Family "Business" can be forced to render testimony before Congressional committees, and if they refuse, they can be found guilty of Contempt of Congress... which could activate an entirely new set of criminal charges, for which they have not been pardoned! 8)

    2. Joe Biden, himself, has not as yet been pardoned by anyone, for anything! Hmmm.... At this point, it looks like Joe managed to cover everyone's ass but his own! :roflol:
     
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    Trump acted like a catty 13 yr old girl. He showed no class at all. But…that’s what you get with Trump. It is what it is.
     
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    I would have liked Trump to use third person references like message boards such as this do. The people holding on to Biden are will not easily change. Most are disconnected from relevant news, so their views are very narrow and dingle issue based.
    Uhh... I think I invented a new word! Doesn't dingle = single but dumb?
     
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    Trump created a LOT of trouble for himself, by himself, and he put himself through a lot of misery that could easily have been avoided if he had used any intelligent degree of personal restraint. That said, he was unfairly taken to 'pillar-and-post' by his opponents in government and the media to a degree undreamed of before in American politics.

    Remember: Trump is not a magnanimous, "Christ-like" figure. He's mercurial, unpredictable, vindictive, madder than holy hell -- oh, and as of now, he's also the most powerful man in the world! Let that sink in for a minute.... :dog:

    "What goes around, comes around!"
     
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    Biden will never by impeached once, let alone twice. No jury will ever convict him of a single felony, let alone on 34 counts. No court will find him to be a sexual abuser, nor a business fraud.

    If he pre-empted Trump's vengeance targeting Fauci, Millie, and others, Trump is bound to whine about it, rather than concentrate on identifying Black immigrants eating people's pets.
     
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    Biden failed to identify Black immigrants eating people's pets in Springfield, Ohio.

    Trump and Vance will.
     
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    What you say is largely true, Natty; nevertheless, don't dismiss the possibility that Joe Biden may find the tranquility of his final days somewhat 'disturbed' by an order to go before a Congressional committee and provide testimony about various topics -- under oath. He won't want the last line in an enumeration of things in his lovely, liberal 'legacy' to include a note that he was found guilty of Contempt of Congress.... Remember -- nobody has given Joe Biden a pardon for ANYTHING.... :juggle:
     
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    Only if his intention were to be President of ALL Americans. He made it clear that he only wants to be President of those who voted for him.

    Don't be surprised when that comes back to bite him in the ass.
     
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    I think Trump forgot that the campaign is over, the inauguration address is not a time for partisan sniping but should be a time for extending an olive branch to the political opposition. Of course, since Trump THRIVES on conflict and dividing the country, he is unable to be a gracious winner.
     
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    Trump wasn't harsh enough.
     
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    Maybe the Democrats should have played nicer?
     
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    You are rendering yourself irrelevant. You have nothing but the same old tired points based upon partisan politics and the abuse of the legal system.
     
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    Most Dems, including Biden and Harris were there to show him respect. In contrast, Trump couldn't bring himself to attend Biden's inauguration in 2021. That alone makes Biden 10 times the man that Trump is.
     
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    Trump is the antithesis of the "feminizing of America" brought on by the liberal left and backed up by state and federal law enforcement powers.
    So yes. Testosterone is back. If you are angered and nervous, our enemies are running for cover!
     
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    He may some day be exposed as a satanist, but none of the goobers' copious, blood-curdling revilements has been confirmed as reality to date.

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    Yeah, he will speak up, but boy can he run the country like a good businessman.

    It should be obvious to all by now that Trump is not a person who tries to mend fences. He couldn't care less what folks think about him. Trump is on a mission to MAGA.

    Trump seems to be gracious to those who deserve it, like the military, police, firemen, etc. But no olive branch should be extended to a president who allowed thousands and thousands of unvetted foreigners from all over the world to flood into our country for four years, committing horrible crimes upon our good citizens. Trump did right.
    Biden had the Dept of Justice attack Trump for years. Trump did right.
    Biden got a taste of his own medicine. Trump exposed Biden for the entire world to see.
     
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    No, they were there in an attempt to salvage what little is left of their public image, after acting like ****ing morons for the past 8 years. They finally figured out that their behavior actually made Trump more popular and that they practically won the election for him.
     
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    It is clear that you are unable to refute my citing facts - objective, empirical data.

    Reviling certified democratic elections and the American justice system whilst spewing vicious lies that demonize the vulnerable just doesn't do it for me.


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    Yes, we already knew that Trump never can bring himself to act like a decent human being. His inauguration speech just confirmed this one more time. He is only gracious to those who kiss his behind (or, he ridicules them, like he did with Scott). That's not being gracious. Gracious is when one is kind to their adversaries.

    BTW: Why do you ask the question when you already have the answer cemented in your mind? We get it that you relish in Trump being nasty to his perceived enemies within, as does the rest of MAGA. As if this makes your life better.

    That's what I don't understand with the MAGA movement. The MAGA supporters I know personally are perfectly decent people. How is it possible that they can bring themselves to support a guy like Trump, who by all normal accounts would be considered to be the antithesis of what would be considered a decent person? He is crass, vulgar, nasty, demeaning, disrespectful, egoistic, vengeful ... in other words, everything you teach your children NOT to be. Yet, MAGA LOVES him.
     
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    Impeachments based on phony evidence for political purposes and court trails conducted in biased, kangaroo courts for political purposes are not "empirical data." They are like the show trials Putin's puppets hold in Moscow before he throws his political opponents in prison. You need to find a new horse for your anti-Republican, anti-Trump crusade. The one you are riding is dead. :deadhorse:
     
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    It’s manly to pay Orange Hitler respect?

    Odd opinion.

    In any case, I guess your answer to the thread title is: no, Trump was not too tough on Biden because Biden is such a man that he can handle it.

    I agree: Trump wasn’t too tough on him
     
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    As Trump himself says, he says what he says and what he means in plain straight English. He graciously escorted Biden to Executive (nee Marine) One, helped him board and did not kick his ass on the way out.
     
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