Wave of hate crimes in NYC

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/05/gay-man-fatally-shot-in-apparent-hate-crime.html

I think we all know what is to blame for this. The bigots are losing and their crazies have listened to their leaders. This is disturbing to say the least. Links to two other incidents this month alone in New York:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/05/there-were-two-gay-bashings-in-midtown-this-week.html
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/05/knicks-fans-hate-crime-game-one-loss.html

 

I would say that more gays should start carrying weapons, but that is no real solution either.

I hope we find and apply the best answers in the end.

 

This will offend, but we only know the gays side of the story and gay/lesbian groups are not to be trusted. It wouldn't surprise if these gays committed indecent exposure or assault & battery before the men fought back and now the gays are saying they were victims of unprovoked violence for sympathy. Most gay bashings are men reacting to crimes the gay & transexual ( worse than gays) did. They must abolish sex change mutilations.I would rather have a case where a jury decides if a man's reaction to bashing or killing a gay after the gay did indecent exposure was justified or excess, vs. the man not doing enough & the gay does something worse. Self-defense is a jury topic after hearing both prosecutor & defense lawyer & jury decides if gay basher used reasonable or excessive force.

 

Gays often harass & or commit assault/battery on teenage boys to men in early 20s & the men react by bashing the gay. I would rather have a case where a jury decides if a man’s reaction to bashing or killing a gay after the gay did indecent exposure was justified or excess, vs. the man not doing enough & the gay does something worse. A gay bashing case I know of from many years ago in Arizona. What had happened was that an 18 year old boy had been in a park with friends. A gay who was much bigger than him grabbed the boy’s butt & made a sex comment. The boy then told his 2 friends. After this, the 2 men grabbed the gay, brought him to the boy who then hit the gay several times in the face. That ‘gay bashing’ victim committed a crime-assault&battery & boy reacted by bashing him. If that teenage boy had tried to walk away, that gay who was much bigger than him would likely have attacked him because the gay had a secret violent history (unreported to cops) of beating up teenager boys after harassing them for sex & these cases unpredictable-that teenager boy would likely have ended up in the hospital. To say that ass grabbing is the only crime the gay was going to do is dishonest. Better to do too much than not enough in cases like that.

With that gay, it’s highly likely the gay was trying to do something more violent than ass grabbing, so that gay deserves no sympathy for getting hit in the face. This gay again had beaten up other teenager boys after committing assault & battery (ass grabbing), was likely trying to do it to this teenager boy, but because this teenager boy had 2 friends (1 a martial arts expert) who were with him, they were able to defend this boy before he got beaten up. If the homosexual is high on drugs (many gays drugjunkies) such as cocaine as that gay possibly was then it’s likely the gay would’ve done more violent crime in a cocaine rage if indeed the gay was high. Self-defense is a jury topic after hearing both prosecutor & defense lawyer & jury decides if gay basher used reasonable or excessive force. If the gay has a violent history, then it is relevant because it supports idea that the gay was going to attack the man after harassing the man. Gay/lesbian groups are not to be trusted. In this NYC cases, we only know the gays stories but gays often tell fairy tales. Most gay bashings are men reacting to crimes the gay & transexual ( worse than gays) did. They must abolish sex change mutilations.

 

Is this some verified trend... or are you just saying it because you IMAGINE it is actually true? Come on, which is it?

 

In neither of these cases did what funisnow claims happen. The victims were all targeted for their sexual orientation and had no idea who their attackers were.

 

From what I see---the main gay bashers are black. Is there a description of the attackers?

 

Not sure what race has to do with anything, but here's a photo of the most recent suspect. He does not look black to me. He obviously has a lot of issues.

http://worldnewsandwire.com/suspect...er/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

Well when it comes to trust....race has a lot to do with it. I remember a story in NY where two gay men were beat up by black youths and it was automatically a hate crime. But when whites are also targeted...some being told by the beaters that they are "in the wrong neighborhood"---it is not a hate crime.

So the credibility starts to get diluted on these things.

 

Did you not read what I posted? In all cases, the victims were targeted for their perceived sexual orientation. What credibility is diluted here? These crimes have also taken place in neighborhoods that are occupied by mostly gay people.

 

I read what you posted. It just doesn't have much credibility to me. When black youth attack white gays---its a hate crime because it is assumed it is. It was the perception that it was. Because the victims were gay.http://www.edgenewyork.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=crime&sc2=news&sc3=&id=135433

But when whites who are told that they are in the wrong neighborhood and are beat by black assailents and it is NOT considered a hate crime....what am I supposed to take seriously? http://www.theamericanconservative....family-white-beaten-black-wrong-neighborhood/

 

If you want to discuss race based hate crimes, start your own thread. Do not hijack this one. Address the issues I posted here, or please leave. These are clear examples of people being targeted for being homosexual. Race had nothing to do with any of them.

 

I'm on topic. I'm just trying to say...you have to be careful when believing even the media. And what is relayed may not be reality.

 

So you are saying that none of these crimes were based on sexual orientation?

 

I don't know what's more offensive - the fact that some dude just pulled out a gun and shot a guy for no reason, or the fact that 2 guys were wearing tank tops and women's shorts in public

 

That's the New York City's gays side of story. Okay, it's possible they told truth but it's also possible these gays are lying. Many cases where gays commit crimes such as harass other men in bathroms or a gay commits assault & battery by grabbing a man's butt or groin against will & after the men react in self-defense by bashing the gay, the gays then tell their friends, family, cops & media that they're unprovoked violence victims, though it's the gays who committed crimes & the men fought back. With these cases, we only know the gays side of the story.

 

Evidence for anything you said in this post?

 

Again with New York City cases, we're only hearing the gay's side of stories which may or may not be true. But here's evidence of how gay/lesbian groups side with gays no matter what the gays do. In 2007, gay/lesbian groups such as GLSEN including Black crack smoking lesbian Pam Spaulding condemned then MSNBC host Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson after he talked of how when he was a teen, he had bashed a gay who was harassing him in a DC mall restroom. Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson bashed the gay who was harassing him for sex in the bathroom, then tied the gay up and called the cops who arrested the gay. The bathroom is not the place for sex.

That gay was harassing a teenage Tucker Swanson M. Carlson in a mall bathroom and Tucker Swansom M. Carlson defended himself against the gay. The belief GLSEN and black crack smoking lesbian Pam Spaulding have that Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson should've tolerated this harassment while using bathroom by walking away would've been a bad idea because these cases unpredictable. It's dishonest, delusional or both to deny possiblity the gay who was harassing a teenage Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson in the DC restroom wouldn't have done something more violent in the next 5 seconds, as that gay possibly had a history of sexually abusing teenage boys in public restrooms & that had Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson not bashed that gay, he would've become the gay's next victim. That's 1 evidence. Again, with these New York gays, we only know their side of story which may nor may not be true because it's possible the gays were harassing or committing assault & battery on teenage boys before the boys fought back by bashing the gays and now the gays are saying they're victims of hate crimes for sympathy.

 

Lon, incoherant ramblings are not evidence.
Try again

 

Incoherant rambling is not evidence. Try again

Defending murderers is wrong.

Lying about someone committing a crime is wrong

 

If you don't know what's more offensive, then you need to seek some serious help.

 

It that a sense of humor you are trying to express?

 

Ask anyone who's done a significant amount of time in prison if there is a lot of homosexual rape.

 

What does this have to do with the OP?

 

Everything. It is about hate crimes committed by homosexuals.