We need to grant the right to die for any reason.

We need to grant the right to die for any reason.

The first point, no one actually dies of old age. It might be scary for some, but there's a reason why we shield death from public view as much as possible.
Do People Really Die of Old Age? | Live Science

The second point, how do the elderly feel about death? Some of them want to die, but many are afraid of the dying part.
Here's what people in their 90s really think about death (theconversation.com)

Ok, so again, we need to grant the right to die for any reason.

 

NO! Life is G-d's Creation.

Ssuicide is a sin like Murder.

 

i have stage 4 cancer, and have had plenty of time to think about this issue. i reserve the right to end my own life at a time of my own choosing.

 

I will pray for you. I have nothing to say not having suffered.

 

"For any reason" : no. The tittle of that thread would suggest it would be morale to tell people who want to commit suicide that they should. Depression is a sickness, the despair induced by it is an illusion.

Considering people with harsh illness, I'm not totally hostile if it's absolutly necessary to shorten their pain. However pain may distort mind. I'm not absolutly against it, but globally I think that any "right to die", if it ever appear should be strictly supervised and not induced only by a wish of the one who die.

I wish you good luck.

 

thanks.

 

Awww man, that's terrible. I wish you the best as well, even a miracle.

 

a miracle would be nice. plenty of powerful church ladies are praying for me! also some great doctors and nurses.

 

Sorry to hear that.

 

I’m sure you’ve done far more research than I. But have you asked your vet?

https://www.canceractive.com/article/antiworm-drug for animals effective at killing cancer cells

Stage 4 id try it. Good luck bro

 

That's terrible, best of luck to you!!

 

Good topic. I have seen my mother suffer the last few years in her life. It got to the point that she didn't really want to eat anymore, because swallowing was so hard, that she almost needed to be force fed. The hardest part was hearing her say "Ich kann nicht mehr", kind of hard to translate, sort of like "I can't anymore". I am sure she would have been happy at one point to stop the suffering. Of course, with Alzheimer's, her predicament, it is even harder, because the patients don't have lucid moments to actually make a decision like that.

For me, a big issue for choosing my own time of death would be to not die alone. My dad died alone, and it is something that I can never forgive myself for not being there in his greatest time of need.

 

If you died alone, would you be resentful of your family? If we could talk to your dad right now I bet he holds no grudges against you. Hope you take no offense to that.

My simple wish is that I not be a burden on those I leave behind. I'm lucky to still have mom, but made my peace with my father as he died. In the end, he ultimately still died alone. Death is hard.

 

First off...sorry to hear about your battle.
Second, I couldn't agree more with you. I believe people should have the freedom to end their suffering if they so choose. My dad chose to end his suffering from stage 4 esophageal cancer.

 

No offense taken. I would not be resentful of my family for dying alone, probably just sad. Or, possibly, maybe when you die, you are so focused on yourself that it doesn't matter if you have people around you or not. We'll only find out when we get there.

When visiting my dad in Germany is his last few years, I know each time it got harder and harder for him to say goodbye at the end of the visit. I guess deep inside he thought about that each time could be the last time. And at one point it was....

 

My father's downhill path happened over a matter of a few months. Small cell lung cancer that metastasized rapidly into his liver and pancreas. I feel for you. I still can see him and hear him talking to me in my memories. I went to see him twice in the weeks before he passed. The day before I was to head back to see him again, he died in the middle of the night. He'd foregone treatment since the doctors said it would be unsuccessful. I hope I see him again one day when I make that trip. I feel for you. His passing changed me, as I'm sure your father's passing changed you as well.

 

(Romans 3:23 New International Readers Version)

Everyone has sinned. No one measures up to God’s glory.​

 

My mother just passed in June under very similar circumstances.

Personally, I think that we should allow humans the same right to die with dignity that we allow our pets. At some point, after all quality of life is gone, I see no reason why a person should not be able to relieve their suffering.

 

Depression doesn't cause despair. I have depression and I'm not suffering from gloom, or sadness, or despair in any way. It's just a bunch of symptoms that afflict a person with no conscious control or ability to stop them. So, one takes a pill for that just like one takes a pain killer for a headache.

 

My father denied treatment for cancer and died. He chose to deny treatment, as did his father before him. That was their choice.

 

In general I do support the idea. The right to life also comes with the right to give up life. However, I am also in favor of ensuring that a person is in their right mind when making such a decision. Extreme pain is a valid reason. Recent loss is not. Mental or emotional illness also is not. Even if no one else agrees with the person, as long as the one wanting to die can be shown to be of sound mind and not being unduly influenced, then they get to make the decision.

 

That sounds like it was a hard time, sorry for your loss. Memories is all we have and we have to cherish those. My dad had a stroke in January, and he passed away in April 2015. I was lucky to be able to fly back to Germany to see him just a week before his passing. Due to the stroke, he was basically not able to do anything on his own, he needed 24/7 help. In a sense, I think the passing was a relief, because he used to be a very active man who like to travel. Being cooped up in the house must have been like torture to him.

 

Sorry for your loss.

We have dogs and we have experience with the process of putting them down. The problem is to find the right time. One dog we had had heart failure and was in bad shape. We basically had to do dialysis through the skin twice a day to relief stress from the heart. When we finally decided it was time, the little guy went prancing into the vet clinic as if he was a young dog. The vet looked at us puzzled, asking why we wanted to put him down since he looked to be fine. The problem was that he hated the vet, and he was very good at keeping up appearances for brief periods of time. After 10 min, he couldn't keep it up and let down his guard, so the vet saw that it was time.

These decisions being so hard for dogs, I can only imagine how much harder it would be for humans, especially when money becomes involved.

 

A few years ago I had to euthanize my dog. It was a hard thing to do both physically and emotionally. It was August, close to 100 degrees and the soil around my house was like a rock. Every day I went out with a pick and shovel and worked for about 10 minutes to dig a grave. Ten minutes was all I could stand in the heat. It took about 5 days to finish the task. On the appointed day a vet who made house calls arrived. My dog was given a sedative. She appeared very relaxed. Then another shot was administered resulting in almost instant death. The vet helped me carry the 100 pound dog out to the grave on a blanket in a dignified manner. I'm am at times accused of lacking emotion but I tear up thinking about that day. But I am glad that my dog could die calmly and with dignity. Something as I human I would not be allowed to do by "do gooders" who cite an imaginary man who lives in the sky and echo the puritan ethic that man must suffer. Well to you people I say this. I have seen people die slow deaths from cancer, living with total paralysis, and the like. So for those that pass laws against assisted suicide and assert the nobility of suffering when all purpose has gone out of life. Just remember, that your day will come.

 

I can totally respect and understand such a choice.