We Support Donald Trump II

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    Many watched Rep. Adam Schiff and his summary of the House Intelligence Committee's impeachment report. He was calm, professional, informative, and convincing. He was competent and skillful in his presentation.

    This is our President:

    “I learn nothing from Adam Schiff, I think he’s a maniac. I think Adam Schiff is a deranged human being. I think he grew up with a complex for lots of reasons that are obvious. I think he’s a very sick man, and he lies.”

    Trump's press secretary said "Chairman Schiff’s report reads like the ramblings of a basement blogger straining to prove something when there is evidence of nothing.”

    Trump's fans love this in their President.
     
  2. US Conservative

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    Tito Ortiz has a fight coming up in a few days-and he's a die hard Trump supporter.

     
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    When did Trump fans become prideful of Men who beat their wives?
     
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    He was never charged on that, but it came out his wife at the time was addicted to drugs and Tito got fully custody of their children.

    I used to spend Christmas up in Big Bear. Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz would ride BMX bikes and jog around the place I stayed.
     
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    Hillary has never been charged of any crime, yet you want to lock her up. LOL

    I never liked Tito. Always thought he was overrated. Liddell was a warrior though. He gave it up much to late in his career thank god. He was looking old and worn out against the younger, stronger dudes.
     
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    Im more inclined to believe Tito because the judge granted him custody of their kids.

    Tito is probably going to retire in a few years, but he's still in great shape.

    Liddell was a beast. They were both on a pod cast I like recently...and they are both Trump supporters.

     
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    Tito should have retired over a decade ago. LOL

    Good for them.
     
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    How many people have noticed the parallels of character between Eric Cartman and Adam Schiff?

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    Just how dumb is Trump? He wants to call leading Democrats in the impeachment proceedings as his witnesses. Don't believe me? Read this.

    "If you are going to impeach me, do it now, fast, so we can have a fair trial in the Senate, and so that our Country can get back to business," Trump tweeted Thursday morning as he awaited Pelosi's remarks. "We will have Schiff, the Bidens, Pelosi and many more testify, and will reveal, for the first time, how corrupt our system really is." https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/05/politics/donald-trump-impeachment-strategy/index.html

    Incredible.

    There was no mention of Mulvaney, Pence, Perry, Bolton, and Giuliani -- all key figures in the impeachment probe and close associates to Trump -- as witnesses in the Senate trial. However, there is this from NPR.

    The argument of whether to call witnesses goes to a central debate among Senate Republicans on how long a trial could take and what it could look like. Some Republicans, including Sen. Lindsey Graham, a key Trump ally, have warned that calling witnesses could force an impeachment trial to drag on. https://www.npr.org/2019/12/05/7848...icans-huddle-with-white-house-on-senate-trial

    And Trump and Republicans call the House impeachment inquiry a sham. Do they have to make it so obvious that the verdict is already in?

    Putin got what he wanted. The Trump government is a sham.
     
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    It is plainly evident that the verdict is in with the democrats. They have two legal cases, McGahn and the Mueller grand jury information, in the courts. They are arguing that this is necessary for the impeachment investigation. They are slated for January. The dems are rushing to vote before Christmas.

    The dem clown show will get a rude awakening in the Senate.
     
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    New Trump impeachment political ad...
     
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    Oh? By whom?
     
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    So, unfortunately, if my job were ever in question, I wouldn't get a gigantic trial. However, if I come forward and tell everyone that I abused the power of my position in plain english, that will be the end of my job, and I won't be able to squeal about due process. Now, even if I have demonstrated nonstop how my word is worth absolutely nothing, and multiple almost unimpeachable witnesses say they have every reason to think I have abused my power my job is done. That's probably true, even if I haven't completely destroyed my credibility. However, even in a a trial situation, and all that was available was second or third-hand hearsay, then what happens is that the people who have first hand knowledge are brought in and put under oath to testify. If I then further abuse my power to keep those people from testifying I just go to jail for that. There is no winning on these arguments.
     
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    Well, yeah. I love America, my only choice is to support the dnc.
     
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    I assume that would be like Joe Biden on video proudly explaining how he withheld federal aid to the Ukraine to force them to fire the investigator who was investigating the company who was paying his son some 50-80K a month to do nothing?? Plain english, spoken without coercion and with pride, that Joe obtained a Quid Pro Quo, a personal favor by leveraging American aid to a foreign country.
    Absolutely beyond question, but we have yet to hear a democrat acknowledge it.

    Justice is a word that seem to re-define itself every time the political wind needs it to. Get back to us when Joe is brought to justice.
     
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    This might have some teeth.... IF that had actually benefited his son in any way. Or, if he had acted alone, or if anybody who wasn't a nutjob had said that it was the wrong thing to do. Etc... What joe did can be shown to ACTUALLY be fighting corruption, what trump did cannot. Never mind that trump didn't even have the right to withhold anything. Or the effect that the withholding had.

    You know I spent my whole life thinking that the two sides were as bad as each other.... it just doesn't seem to be the case.
     
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    We don't know positively it benefited Hunter. We do know that what Trump is accused of did not benefit Trump. We do know that Burisma was looking for a connection of influence in Washington politics. We do know that Hunter had Zip experience in the industries Burisma ran. We do know that it is very common in US politics for a politician to funnel influence money through family, in the way of jobs, consulting fees and a number of other strategies to avoid taking payments illegally. We do know a Ukraine government corruption investigator was after Burisma, and we do know Joe Biden stepped in to demand that investigation be shut down- and we know that the investigation was totally within the Ukraine of a Ukraine company by Ukraine officials- and that Joe leveraged a great deal of US aid money to do it.

    Now all those pieces of the puzzle point directly toward that kind of covert monetary arrangement, and there are no pieces which support reasonable alternative conclusions. It's like the Euro company who had been struggling to get state department approval for a deal without success, and had never hired speakers before, suddenly hiring Bill Clinton at $750,000.00 for a 40 minute speech- and conveniently getting state department approval from Hillary. We can't prove that was influence peddling. But would a rational, unbiased mind not have strong suspicions that it was?

    And- If trump had reason to believe that the Ukraine helped provide dossier misinformation (and we know they did), and that there may well have been involvements with Biden in that respect (no proof, but good indications) would that not be corruption that involved Americans too? Would any leader (in this case Trump) not have reason to ask that country to check into these things? Hell, if he didn't under the circumstances, I would have thought that to be negligent. Yet, the dems gave Joe a total pass, not even the slightest question- for doing something they accuse Trump of doing and want to imp[each him for, which never led to anything.

    I could also say I've always seen both political sides as having moral issues, and at this point see one as far worse than the other. The difference is- I see the democrats doing the dirty tricks today that would not have been tolerated by either side 30 years ago.
     
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    Ok, so in general, not only can we not demonstrate that it benefited hunter, almost all evidence shows that it made it worse. Now, I agree that it's shady for talent less worthless kids to get high paying jobs. The best example is trump himself, but jared and ivanka are much better ones, far far down the list is the bidens. Clintons are a little fishy, I admit, although compared to trump it's almost indiscernible. Plus, if it involved hillary and could be investigated, it was. They didn't find near as much asthey did on trump . Nobody gives a crap about a dossier. Again, if trump had one single instance anywhere of fighting corruption, his story might be believable. It has never happened. There will never be an example of trump doing anything to benifit anybody but himself. So, there is no way he went rouge this time suddenly.
     
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    3.5% unemployment and you call this administration a sham.

    I guess Putin wanted us to have the strongest economy we've ever had huh?

    Putin's such a nice guy, he wanted to make us great and rich again by helping us elect Trump.
     
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    Your DNC Rulers.
     
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    Oh? How did they do that in 2016?
     
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    Oh you know . They decided you will vote for Hillary, not bernie.
     
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    I wasn't even a democrat, so I couldn't vote between them.
     
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    It's generally useless to be rational with the anti-Trumpers. They see what they want, deny what they want. No discussion possible when you refuse to see what's on the table.
     
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