Western education systems degrading – Putin

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  1. Endeavor

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    This is the issue with some people, they read ONE ARTICLE and now they think they are the most intelligent person on that subject.

    Read a few more articles and discover what is happening.

    Oh you know why Putin think Western education is bad? it’s because in his country most are f$$$ uneducated. It is always come down to “ sour grapes”

    These Countries Have a Well-Developed Public Education System | U.S. News (usnews.com)

    These 3 countries are the most "WOKE" country in the world, yet their education system are the best, may be we need more gay loving teacher like they have in Sweden and Finland. we can send some gay loving teacher to Putin.

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    Most Educated Countries 2023 (worldpopulationreview.com)

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    Best Education System in the World: Top 10 Countries (gyandhan.com)
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    Best Countries for Education | U.S. News (usnews.com)
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    2022-2023 Best Universities in the World - US News

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    sorry , i don't see Russia in any of these list, Do you ?
     
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    That's simply not true, it's the left wing as of lately
     
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    As of lately is where you hitch you wagon? First you continue to be objectively wrong and second, in America, Trump's the most recent fascist dictator wannabe AND, he, a Useful Russian Idiot, is the GOP frontrunner currently facing 91 criminal charges. I'm not sure you know where you are? Devos is another authoritarian wannabe fascist oligarch.

    My question to you is why you want America to be more like Russia since Vlad's kids are western educated?
     
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    I'm objectively correct it's very much a left wing thing the last couple decades. Fascism disguised as compassion
     
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    Fascism has not been left wing thing in the last few decades, you are objectively wrong AGAIN. Regardless, you post shrinks in it's inability to address even acknowledge Trump is using past fascist rhetoric at his rallies and in his media posts...is Trump the LEFT? Try again...

    Answer this^ or deflect, my money's on deflect and gaslight.
     
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  6. Steve N

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    Our education system at work. Wait until you see who typically attended this school.

    Professor Says Spelman Raised Students’ Grades, Fired Him
    Former tenure-track faculty member says the college inflated students’ grades and axed him after he complained. Some say that violates academic freedom.

    A former assistant professor of economics at Spelman College says the institution bumped up the grades he gave students without informing him beforehand and, after he complained, fired him without giving him the right to appeal.
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    Calculations he provided suggested significant percentages of upperclassmen, including seniors in a thesis class, were set to fail a few of his courses even after his own substantial scaling up of their scores. He said the college surreptitiously intervened to further increase grades in two classes.

    https://www.insidehighered.com/news...sor-says-spelman-raised-students-grades-fired
     
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    A) How many people each year graduate with either of those degrees? I'm guessing infinitesimal comparatively.
    B) There are lots of job for people with those degrees.
    A very small percent of people actually end up working in the field of their degree. My wife and I are living proof. I have a degree in History and have worked in health care industry for over 30 years. My wife's degree is in Elementary Education and has also worked in health care industry for over 25 years. A close fiend of mine graduated with an English degree and ended up working on Wall St. A former director of mine at a health insurance company I worked at in early 90's had an undergraduate and masters degree in music. Those are just a few examples.
    Point being one can do many different kinds of jobs having pretty much any degree.
     
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    I don't disagree with you in that many people work in fields they didn't study in college. But at the same time, most people in college major in something hoping to get a job in that field.
     
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    And yet most never do.

    Most people in college have no fricken idea what they want to do for a career. I sure as hell didn't at that age.
     
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    False I am objectively correct. Fascism is a left with thing lately, its simply been cloaked in fake compassion. This desire to suppress the rights of people in order to protect others, all in a ploy to gain control.
     
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    Well you as a non-American and German citizen...could you explain your claim to us? The patriots in Germany were the left wing fascists....until the end of WW2.
     
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    You might be objectively correct it the disinformation bubble of authoritarian Russia but in the free world you're in Lala Land. Trump is the current wannabe fascist and Russia's useful idiot, AND, that's stark objective fact.
     
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    I am objectively correct in the reality, thats simply the truth you dont want to accept. Fascism belongs to the left lately.
     
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    Um right.... so every single indigenous tribe conquered by the West was overrun by dysfunction and corruption? That certainly is a bold premise.
     
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    Mabye not. But those allegedly indigenous tribes conquered someone before them to be there.
     
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    Yes. Every book I have read on the various aspects of psychology show that human nature tends towards self deception. When we can’t even be honest with ourselves then dysfunction and moral and ethical corruption are assured. Sociologist Amy Chua has written a good book on political tribalism. Jonathan Haidt in another good source of human sociological nature as is Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris. The info is out there is you want to review it.

    Dysfunction and corruption is our nature as is our blindness to it in ourselves and our tribe.
     
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    Wanted comment on “a bold premise.” Here is another bold premise; that there exists a group of humans devoid of dysfunction and corruption. I listen to, read books written by and watch debates and lectures by many psychologists and sociologist and have yet to hear a single one argue the aforementioned bold premise.
     
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    Which is why more foreign college students, by far, come to the U.S., than to any other country in the world.

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    The United States was the top host destination for international students worldwide. In 2022, around 950,000 students were enrolled in higher education in the U.S.. Furthermore, more than 630,000 and 550,000 international students enrolled in the United Kingdom and Canada, respectively.Oct 17, 2023
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    That includes Russian students and, even more notably, a lot of Chinese kids.
     
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    Yes, authoritarian Russian propaganda along with far RW conspiracy nonsense you are objectively correct about. Where you keep getting confused is who the true fascists and authoritarians are. That's understandable since Vlad and his buddies send their offspring to the West to learn and think.
     
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    Incorrect, I'm simply objectively correct about the reality. Fascism is a left wing thing as of decades now. They have demonstrated it time and time again the willingness to attack, maim, hurt, and kill those who disagree with them. BLM is the perfect example.
     
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    And in 2023, Trump is beating the fascist/authoritarian drum to his most loyal flock of lambs. Using BLM is irrelevant to fascism, it's really just a tool to drive wedges.
     
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    ALWAYS? LOL.No hyperbole there. ;)
     
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    False. It's strictly a left wing thing lately. Fascism disguised as compassion. But unfortunately it's hate.
     
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    As I have clearly pointed out, 97% of intelligent people disagree with you and, the facts do as well. Trying to shine Trump's rhetoric, acts and behavior as anything but sociopathic and fascist is denial of reality.
     
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    It's another attempt by Putin to sow chaos within the Western Europe, and the US, in one way or the other, stroking far right populist sentimentalism while at the same time, still viewing Russia more in the same scope as with Stallinist USSR. In other words, Putin's goal is indoctrination using exclusively his world viewpoint. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Our Educational institutions here in the US are generally sound. It is just that some people don't like to hear what they need to hear instead of what they want to hear. England, France, and Germany have much better educational systems than the US, and they are not "woke" as some conservatives believe or think.
     
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