What are your views on abortion?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Daggdag, Oct 19, 2020.

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Which best describes your view on abortion

  1. A woman has the right to choose to get an abortion with no limitations.

    41 vote(s)
    47.7%
  2. Abortion should be illegal after the first trimester

    16 vote(s)
    18.6%
  3. Abortion should be illegal except to preserve the health and life of the mother.

    24 vote(s)
    27.9%
  4. Abortion should be illegal in all circumstances.

    5 vote(s)
    5.8%
  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    You're asking questions that it is the woman's right to answer.

    The legislatures and prosecutors have no right to force such decisions on women.

    Over and over you have shown NO interest in women having rights of bodily autonomy.
     
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  2. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    In which other situations are you perfectly okay with humans being executed in non-life threatening situations?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    How telling that you have nothing in response to: "And what about when abortion is NOT necessary in such cases? Do these abortions have to do with "healthcare?""
     
  4. Cybred

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    To be decided on a case by case basis.
     
  5. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Yes they still have to do with healthcare.
     
  6. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    You can't think of an example?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    How?
     
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    What do you mean "inviolate?"

    No, women do not get to decide what is medically necessary. Medical science decides that.

    There is no "force", other than nature, which will result in the pregnancy. Allowing nature to take it's course is not "force."

    That's because you have a different understanding of "bodily autonomy" to me.
     
  9. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Are you asking if they should they have the right to an elective abortion?
     
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    Nope.
     
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    Yes they do. And yes their forcing her to bear the child.
     
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    In what way do women get to decide what is medically necessary over medical science?

    How are they controlling nature?
     
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    Okay, so then it's possible that you don't think that there are ANY other contexts in which you are perfectly okay with humans being executed in non-life threatening situations.
     
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    By being the one to decide what treatment they will accept.
    By preventing women from getting an abortion.
     
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    What does this have to do with abortion?

    So they are controlling nature? Surely you can't be serious!
     
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    I am, and don't call me shirly
     
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    What does this have to do with abortion?
     
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    How can nature be controlled?
     
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    You tell me.
     
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    By doing it, ever hear of a dam?
     
  21. WillReadmore

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    Whether a termination is called for is a result of a medical analysis and patient consultation.

    The result of threatening OB/GYN and related doctors and other care givers with prison and ending their careers is that such care will degrade.

    I've stated this NUMEROUS times, yet you keep asking the same questions over and over WITHOUT adding anything new, citing anything or even just recognizing the argument.

    "Idaho’s obstetrics exodus is not happening in isolation. Across the country, in red states like Texas, Oklahoma and Tennessee, obstetricians — including highly skilled doctors who specialize in handling complex and risky pregnancies — are leaving their practices. Some newly minted doctors are avoiding states like Idaho."

    "Dr. Zahedi-Spung felt as if she had “quite the target on my back,” she said — so much so that she hired her own criminal defense lawyer. “The majority of patients who came to me had highly wanted, highly desired pregnancies,” she said. “They had names, they had baby showers, they had nurseries. And I told them something awful about their pregnancy that made sure they were never going to take home that child — or that they would be sacrificing their lives to do that. I sent everybody out of state. I was unwilling to put myself at risk.”

    "In Oklahoma, where more than half of the state’s counties are considered maternity care deserts, three-quarters of obstetrician-gynecologists who responded to a recent survey said they were either planning to leave, considering leaving or would leave if they could, said Dr. Angela Hawkins, the chair of the Oklahoma section of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/06/...ho handle high,has been particularly hard hit.
     
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    Isn't it your point?
     
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    I should've asked: how can nature be forced by humans?
     
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    If both the father and the mother agree to an abortion then let them. If only one of them wants the abortion then it ought to be decided in a court of law where both parties have equal rights in the matter.
     
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    YOU asked.
     

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