What Can Be Done To Stop Destructive Tornados ?

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  1. protectionist

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    Can anyone suggest anything we in the US can do to stop these terrible tornados ? Feel free to pose ideas, no matter how outlandish they may seem initially. Don't worry about the naysayers. The inventors of electric light, automobiles, airplanes and computers all had those "don't be ridiculous people" tugging at them too.

    Seems like 44 years after scientists put a man on the moon (so they say), we ought to be able to come up with some way to stop these destructive tornados. Unlike hurricanes, they're not really too big at their base. Any ideas ? Anything.
     
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    Nothing can be done to prevent them. The US has an amazingly good system of coverage and warning. NOAA has even reached a point where their prediction models can now forecast a number of days ahead of time. On the 14th April 2012 with two days notice, Kansas suffered 101 touchdowns without a single death recorded.

    To stop a tornado you need to figure out how to stop the jet stream from moving. Nobody has the vaguest clue how to do that
     
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    Tornado shelters. :blankstare:

    You can't predict an exact location or path of a tornado, because they're too small. But you can make available plenty of safe shelters just in case.
     
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    And the more warning the better your chances of reaching shelter are. The problem with todays tornado it was basically unsurvivable. Even in a basement that sucker passed over the top of your structure, you would be having a one on one with your maker
     
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    Simple.

    Stop building above ground cities made of cheap materials and then tornadoes would be a much smaller problem.

    Other than that, since we are massively cutting even the money to allow us to PREDICT and TRACK tornadoes and thereby save a lot of lives and damages, coming up with the resources to ELIMINATE tornadoes is an absurd pipe dream.

    That requires a scientific BREAKTHROUGH, and that kind of science almost always comes from government spending, which we are eliminating.
     
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    There could be other ways to stop a tornado, having nothing to do with the jet stream. I was speculating (only speculating at this point) about possibly stopping a tornado in a similar way that you could stop an invading army. If that army was in a tight group moving across the land, and destroying people and things along its path, it could be stopped be planes firing rocket bombs at it, disrupting it, and knocking it apart.

    I just wonder if a tornado (being simply a wind current which is circular) could be disrupted and knocked apart (and thereby eradicated) by being hit with great explosions, causing a series of changes in its circular wind motion, and altering it, to either a few smaller tornado-like currents, or down to nothing.
     
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    Not a basement, a shelter. It only needs to be big enough for a few bodies to wait in. Elevator size. Tornadoes don't last forever, you don't have to make living arrangements for them. Just have enough reinforced structures so that Dorothy doesn't get whisked off to Oz. :blankstare:
     
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    Weather reports all over the TV are showing the predicted path of the tornado, as well as the predicted path of the ones expected to occur later today.

    OFF TOPIC. What can be done to STOP destructive tornados is the topic.
     
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    Move to a place that isn't routinely destroyed by tornadoes.
     
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    There is really only one way to deliver that amount of energy and the fix would definitely worse than the problem
     
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    But with not with a great amount of warning time. You wake up in the morning and the TV shows a red line through your house. All people in tornado zones should have access to a personal shelter in their home or a community shelter very close by. Or, they can continue to suffer the wrath of Tornado SuperSonic. :blankstare:
     
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    Just another example of why we need to INCREASE spending (on certain things), after raising taxes on the rich.

    As for the "absurd pipe dream" notion, that was given to electric light, automobiles, airplanes and computers.

    Interesting. And possibly helpful info as well (but still Off Topic)
     
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    Off Topic.

    Sounds like you have some interesting, quantitative, technical information on this. OK. Let's hear it (with authoritative source links)
     
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    It's not off topic. You asked what can be done to stop DESTRUCTIVE tornadoes, so if there is nothing to destroy, the problem is solved.
     
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    You're splitting hairs.

    The topic is "What Can Be Done To Stop Destructive Tornadoes?" We don't have the technology to actually do this, and may well never. So the only thing we can do is prepare to minimize the damage as much as possible.
     
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    But there is something to destroy >> THE TORNADO. THAT's what we're talking about. Not what you changed the subject to. Please stay within the TOPIC. (stopping the tornado)
     
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    Q: How much power does the strongest tornado have? And, I know Twister is not true but can a tornado be a mile wide?

    Answered by: Joe Schaefer, director, NOAA/NWS Storm Prediction Center, Norman, Okla.

    A: The total energy in a tornado is relatively low. A typical tornado contains 10,000 kilowatt-hours, while a hurricane contains 10,000,000,000 kilowatt-hours. (For comparison, a Hydrogen Bomb also contains 10,000,000,000 kilo-watt hours.) However, because a tornado is so much smaller than a hurricane, the energy density (energy per unit volume) of a tornado is about 6 times greater for a tornado than for a hurricane. In terms of energy density, a tornado is the strongest of nature's storms.
     
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    No, I'm splitting topics, as is required by the rules of this forum.
     
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    So what does any of that have to do with your previous statement ? >>> ("There is really only one way to deliver that amount of energy and the fix would definitely worse than the problem")

    And why would the fix be worse than the problem ? Explanation please.

    Note: might it not be possible to attack a tornado with rockets, in its infant stage, rather than what you describe as a "typical tornado" ?
     
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    What topic are you enforcing? Because nobody knows it but you, Mein Messageboard Kampf. :blankstare:
     
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    Nuke the suckers :(
     
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    I thought we were talking about stopping the destruction of homes and other infrastructure caused by a tornado. If that is the case, then my solution would be to move said homes and infrastructure to a more tenable location where the probability of destruction is reduced to acceptable levels. Physically stopping a tornado, however, is just a sci-fi at this point.
     
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    They are only going to get worse because of climate change.
     
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    I am glad to see the support for continuing what made the USA the economic powerhouse it once was.

    The electric light was not any kind of "breakthrough", it was simply a materials issue to make longer lasting bulbs. And what made the light USEFUL was the multitude of local government sponsored and developed generating stations built by city and state governments that let people USE the lights.

    The same was true of automobiles and airplanes. Government spending took them from toys to fully useful and plentiful application.

    In computers, their very existence is due to the governmental research that developed the technology that allowed electronic digital computers to be built at all! (Mechanical computers had been around for a 100 years).

    Business spending on "breakthroughs" is very limited. Much of what the DO get is simply absconded from publicly-paid projects.

    Weather control is definitely going to only accomplished by a government, probably for wartime (hot and cold wars) use. Then we will see it trickle into the public sphere.
     
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    You can't understand that the topic is >> What Can Be Done To Stop Destructive Tornados ? Building shelters is good, but it is not stopping a tornado. Get it ?
     

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