What did people in the Bible actually look like?

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We are often told that the people in the Bible and those ancient civilizations in that part of the world were all brown, because that's what people in the Middle East today look like.

    But that was before the Arab invasions and migrations beginning in the Seventh Century. This rapidly changed the face of the whole Middle East, over just a few short centuries.

    To go back and get some idea of what people in this region might have been like we can take a look at groups tucked away in more remote areas that have been living in this region since ancient times. Like the Chaldean Christians, or the Yazidis.



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    These people have been living in the region longer than Iraq has been speaking Arabic.

    Links to more pictures:
    http://america.aljazeera.com/conten...e-than-just-numbers/jcr:content/image.img.jpg
    https://static.independent.co.uk/s3...ls/image/2017/05/11/09/yazidi-children-ap.jpg
    https://idsb.tmgrup.com.tr/2014/08/08/HaberDetay/1407445385242.jpg
    https://vid.alarabiya.net/images/20...ff61/1a634800-b263-472d-824f-3e5c20a0ff61.jpg
    https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly...age.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxXB3fwCQAA9cJi.jpg
    http://www.amybeam.info/13_20141113_yazidi_children.jpg
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    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0f/b2/0d/0fb20d622936784089f831233c9250e5.jpg
    http://www.vijesti.me/media/cache/bf/77/bf77612febc633b7c831ffd9754afa8a.jpg

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    I wouldn't quite say they're "white" exactly, but their features do look pretty similar to Caucasian.
     
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    That's because they ARE Caucasian. Arabs and even Jews are branches of the Caucasian race, just like the Poles and Russians and Romanians and even the ****** Turks. Fer Crissake Aryan means IRANIAN. WTF do you think someone changes their race because they get a good tan or what?

    God almighty the bigotry here is just disgusting
     
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    You might be surprised how many people don’t know that.
     
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    People in the Bible look very two dimensional and flat. Otherwise you couldn't close the book.
     
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    It was likely a diverse mix. The more we learn about cultures of antiquity, the more we learn they were very interconnected through trade and migration.
     
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    Caucasian originally relates to the Caucasus Mountains region (not necessarily the mountain range itself, but somewhat in that general area) that divide asia from europe. Its use today to describe white people isn't entirely accurate. Celtic and Greek decendents for example are not really 'caucasian'.
     
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    A lot of folks in the Bible looked like Charlton Heston, Richard Burton, and Elizabeth Taylor.
     
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    It very well could be that Jesus was black and John was white or vise versa.

    ...not that it matters in the slightest.
     
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    That's not exactly what I am claiming, but I do claim the people in the Bible may likely have looked much more like those actors than the Left would have people think today.

    Of course, it should ultimately be irrelevant what people in the Bible may or may not have looked like, but many university professors and Progressive-Left writers seem to want to make a big deal out of it.

    I agree that it should not change Christianity in the slightest if Jesus had been Black, or brown, or whatever. (Chinese even...)

    But it is absurd and untruthful for people to be claiming as a fact everyone in the Bible was brown and trying to make some social/political point out of that.
    I've seen this in actual mainstream news articles, I've seen this stated as fact by people multiple times in this political forum. I got so tired of it I decided to start this thread so I could link back to here every time I see someone make that claim.

    In addition to all that, as another completely separate issue, this can also address the claim, often made, that the Jews are not "real Jews" because supposedly their ancestry is diluted down and their DNA is far closer to Europeans than other semitic groups living in the Middle East today.
    So that is another politically-charged topic.
     
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    The left thinks that all the time.

    Ever heard of Shaun King?

    And then there is the leftist on this forum who claimed exactly what you said.
     
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    The term Caucasian was created racists in England in the 18th century. They believed that there were 3 major races of humans - Caucasiods, Mongoloids, and Negroids.

    It's not appropriate to call anyone Caucasian unless you're a racist or making a joke about how silly racists are. In fact, one main reason racism still exists is that the government keeps asking us what race we are as if there were different species of humans.

    Describing someone by skin color is inappropriate unless one's trying to get a description for identification purposes or one has some sexual perversion.
     
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    That sounds like a likely origin for the term, but that doesnt mean people that use it are necessarily racist. Thats just more 'inadvertant racism' crapola. Most people say 'caucasian' because they hear other people use it, see it on legal documents and forms, etc. Who invented the word and for what purpose isn't a factor the vast majority of folks. Either someone treats others as equals or they dont. Racism outside of that is just political theater.

    So what pronouns do you demand that we use when discussing Jesus' possible ethnicity and/or skin tone? If we can't say caucasian or white or black, what are the politically correct options?
     
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    Generally speaking, if someone says something out of ignorance, I won't judge them. However, governments don't ask the question out of ignorance. They ask the question because of the desire to support racist policies. Someone doesn't require it on a form because they don't think "race" matters and they will treat everyone the same.
    What options did the Gospels choose? What option did Paul use? What option did Jude, James, Peter, and John use? What option did the writer of Hebrews use?

    Now compare with Islam . . .
     
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    Our image of Jesus is rather closely derived from the Ancient "view" of Alexander the Great
     
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    How many generations in a climate does it take a family to change color?
     
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    Alexander the Great looked like Richard Burton. I know. I saw it on TV.
     
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    God looks like Charlton Heston, or wishes he did
     
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    That pretty little blonde girl is the spitting image of the Ancient Greeks, the Dorians, not the modern ones. The olive-skinned dark haired beauties dominant there today are descendants of the Lombards.
     
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    It is such a big deal there were no posts on this for about 4 yrs. The only one's that care are RWers.
     
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    In my years in Iraq, Kurds were considered Caucasians... lots of blue eyed blondes although not all. Arabs were darker... dark eyes...dark hair... and dark teeth from the tea they drank... you stick a spoon up in it. Iranians were totally different... Persians. I never saw anything racially unique about Yazitis... but the Iraqis considered them evil devil worshippers.
     
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    No. As I already explained to you, many of those on the Left are the ones who seem to make a big deal about it. Hence, the creation of this thread to dispel that myth.

    I think after that myth is dispelled, it will be easier for us all to recognize this doesn't really matter.
     
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