What do we want in 2024? Who do we want?

I usually put a politician's likely policies ahead of impressions about their alleged personality, usually.

So when I heard of the 2020 Democrat proposal of letting in most or all people wanting to enter the US from Central and South America, I wrote to the Green Party challenging their support of that policy, and totally refused to vote for Biden.

Personality can be tricky, but I think we know Marianne Williamson is a good person, Robert Kennedy I would suggest is too, and again,

In contrast Biden revealed his nature very clearly in 2020 when he wanted a punch up with a factory worker in Detroit, just to underline his generally angry and aggressive nature, so again he was a clear 'no'.

I think I'm fairly clear on policies but I don't keep track of people so I'm really looking forward to some suggestions here

 

I know what I don’t want, and that’s the choice between Biden and Trump. Both of them are too old. One of them has a mind made of mush, and the other one has a mind made of iron. Neither one has want we need to address the issues covered by the choices offered in this poll.

 

What I don’t want is a rematch between Biden and Trump. I’d vote third party against both if that were to happen which seems likely. That way I register my official vote as being against both while being able to pick and choose, vote for the down ballot offices.


56% of all Americans don’t want Biden to run again, 53% don’t want Trump to run again. But it seems, at least as of today, that is exactly what the two major parties will give us. They’re giving us what America as a whole don’t want. Not surprising though, since when has either major party ever listened to all of America? Both major parties are so full of themselves, they only listen to the quarter of the population that make up each major party’s base telling the rest to stick it where the sun don’t shine. Nothing new there.


https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/qsy7ekuxik/econTabReport.pdf

 

The people who vote in the primaries are the main force behind who gets the nomination in both parties. The party bosses have a lot of influence too. They resurrected the Joe Biden puppet in 2020 using Jim Claiborne as a mouthpiece.

I have listened to some people who are totally committed to Trump. You can’t reason with them. They would rather nominate Trump and have Biden win again than consider the alternatives. In politics, demagoguery can be most effective.

In 2016 the Trump already had the nomination locked up by the time I got to vote in the Florida primary. I voted for Ted Cruz. The only other choice was the political traitor, John Kasich.

 

People, especially the very partisans look at politics differently than the swing voter, non-affiliated, less to non-partisan group which decides elections. I liked Kasich in 2016 and would have voted for him had he been the GOP nominee that year. I believe Kasich would have beaten Clinton by 10 points or more going by favorable/unfavorable ratings. History has shown folks usually won’t vote for someone they dislike. As it was, I voted for Johnson, against both Trump and Clinton. I voted for Biden in 2020 just to get rid of Trump. A rematch of Trump vs. Biden will see me vote third party again. I want my vote officially registered as being against both as it was in 2016.


I don’t think when it comes to choosing candidates in the primaries neither party has winning in November’s general election in mind. It’s more of making a statement within one’s political party than winning the general. I’ve never been a partisan or belonged to either major party, so when it seems both major parties will nominate candidates which most Americans don’t want nominated for 2024, that seems stupid to me. Why not nominate a candidate with the best chance of winning in the general which isn’t Trump nor Biden? Although in our two-party monopolistic electoral system, one or the other must win.


Then governing comes into play. Regardless of who will win, either one would enter the presidency with a majority of Americans against him. That makes it difficult to govern effectively. But it is what it is.

 

I suspect the democrats are hard at work trying to find a candidate to to replace Biden. He just cannot do it anymore. But due to they way democrat politics works, they have no bench.
So that leaves clear sailing for Trump. His strongest suit is that he has been vetted more than anyone in history. Secondly, the "same old Trump will run", but his presidency will be better because he has so much to do in such a short time, and the economy will be worse than it is now.
But at the end of they day, we (supposedly) all have one vote.

 

Charles Barkley and Larry Bird, one as Prez the other as veep. I don't care which is which. They are both smart about money, tough as nails, and devoid of political party allegiance. Bird has management experience. Not sure about Barkley. They are friends. They would do much to heal racial divisions.

Michael Jordan and Shaq would also be successful. Maybe Shaq and Tom Brady.

 

biden never could do it. he is just an empty suit, like obama before him, with no experience at anything but feeding greedily at the government trough and the democratic party has plenty more just like him. but then, that's just what the political establishment wants and what an ignorant electorate has been told that they need. that's what this whole trump witch hunt is about, warning off any other outsiders that may want to try to reform the system. by the time the next election rolls around we will have had eight years of a constant campaign against trump, prying into every even slightly questionable statement, making sure he is tried in the court of public opinion for cases built largely on innuendo and harassing anyone even loosely associated with him. there is no path to a second term for trump and little chance of anyone from outside of the corrupt system running in my lifetime. why would anyone want to subject themself to the dirty tricks department of both parties and if they did succeed would there be anyone crazy enough to work with them?

 

I voted for world harmony, and you can bet that there is not even one Republican or Democrat who will make achieving that goal a top priority. No matter who we elect in 2024, there will division, strife, anger, and dysfunction all the way. Everybody went too far for at least the past twenty years, and now we will all pay the price for all this hatred and injustice for a very long time to come.

 

I like almost everything I've heard from Robert Kennedy. Biden and Trump are garbage. Far too old and far too divisive, with no goals except keeping the wars rolling to keep the MIC happy.

 

having lived through a great deal of recent history, i distrust anything having to do with the kennedys. biden is less garbage than he is an empty-headed tool and trump would merely instigate another bout of dirty tricks from the political establishment. of course, williamson is nothing but a new age twit. there is simply no way out of the trap that the twin parties and an ignorant electorate have gotten us into.

 

How do you guys feel about Manchin and Synema (prez and veep)?

I don't care which one is on top.

 

Simple, in 2024 I want a choice of candidates that doesn't include neither Biden nor Trump. I want two fresh, younger faces to run for president. That's all I want.

 

Personally, I see her spiritual beliefs as a feature, not a flaw. Her views seem very close to my own as far as I can tell. Kennedy seems like the black sheep of his family, so I'm not too worried about him being a Kennedy. Anyway, I trust the other big names in politics even less. I would take either Williamson or Kennedy over Biden or Trump in a heartbeat.

 

Absolutely, 100% this.

 

oh, something like the empty suit obama or the equally clueless oac? i have seen nothing outstanding from the younger generation of possible candidates, only a near total lack of any understanding of the history that has brought us to this point and a willingness to embrace any failed philosophy that is different from what already exists in this country.

 

We know what we’ll get with Trump and Biden, perhaps that’s why most Americans don’t want neither one to run again.


https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/qsy7ekuxik/econTabReport.pdf

 

we certainly know what biden brings to the table - the status quo. biden, a complete failure of a man, is who we elect if we want to continue the downward spiral brought on by progressive politics. he brings nothing to the table, embracing whatever will fill his own plate and keep his political career slogging along. trump, on the other hand, is a real human being. his greatest sin is that he doesn't represent either party, but that is also his greatest strength. do you want to reform the political miasma? trump's agenda does just that, but first you have to support his efforts despite the efforts of the establishment to sully his accomplishments and a media more invested in selling you sensation than in providing factual information. is the ignorant american electorate capable of such an effort? of course not. this country has become an assemblage of over-educated morons, more interested in their petty squabbles and preconceptions than in accomplishing anything of note. you never trumpers are the epitome of this trend toward mediocrity and that any of you support the puppet biden only cements your place in the annals of america's fall from greatness.

 

I say get Trump back. The harmonizing influence that he has on the environment around him will heal the USA and bring it together once more.

 

First to make any changes, one must be able to win elections, general elections, not just primaries. Trump has a huge personality problem, a behavior problem especially with swing voters, independents. He’s always had going back to his run for the presidency in 2016. 57% of independents viewd Trump unfavorably, but he lucked out in going against Clinton who 65% of independents viewed unfavorably. This enabled Trump to win independent 46-42 over Hillary with 12% voting third party against both.


In 2020 60% of independents disliked Trump, Biden was an acceptable alternative to Trump, he acted and behaved like an adult, like swing voters thought a president should. Not like some spoiled 4-year-old brat with his name calling and throwing of temper tantrums. Swing voters went for Biden 54-41 over Trump. It wasn’t Trump’s policies, swing voters were for some, against some, fairly evenly split. It was Trump himself, the man, the person, his obnoxious, uncouth, rude persona, his very unpresidential behavior. Most independents thought Trump’s behavior was way below the office of the presidency deserved.


Keep in mind independents aren’t political junkies, they tend for the most part not paying much if any attention to politics until an election nears. Many base their vote on which candidate they like the most or best or which one they dislike the most. Today, independents view both Biden and Trump equally in the unfavorable column, but for different reasons. Trump, they dislike him as a person, his rude behavior, his childish antics and schoolyard bullying tactics. Biden, they’re very dissatisfied with the job he’s done, Biden isn’t the president they thought they voted for. But that’s wrong, most swing voters voted for Biden to get rid of Trump. Not for Biden, but against Trump. As bad as swing voters view Biden’s job performance, they still must overcome their personal dislike of Trump which won’t be easy. 2024 if it’s a rematch between these two, who will independents vote for or against, against is more accurate as they’re not for either candidates. Which candidate will be the one independents least want to lose, not win, but least want to lose? They won’t be voting for any candidate, but against one or the other or perhaps both by voting third party or staying home refusing to choose between what they view as two evils, two unwanted candidates. Time will tell.

 

Some argue he has too much experience (40+ years in politics). How much experience are you looking for?

I never heard such proposal.

What do I want from 2024? I want moderates, - preferably moderate conservatives.

 

At this point in time, I want Trump and only Trump and will not vote for anybody else, ESPECIALLY DeSantis, who has more than shown his true colors as of lately... I'm done with the elitist globalist Uniparty bullshit.

Although, I'd definitely be interested if Kennedy Jr was the nominee for the D side... However, the DNC and their superdelegates would never let that happen in a million years, so I don't think that thought is even worth my time.

Trump 2024 or bust.

 

Despite of all the empty rhetoric claiming the contrary, Trump pretty much personifies the word "globalist", while DeSantis personifies the word "authoritarian".

 

Trump's policies while in office were very nationalist (rather than globalist). Are you claiming this because he engages in multinational business dealings?

This I agree with. I see DeSantis in a completely different light nowadays (and not in a good one).

I readily admit that he had me fooled not too long ago, but no longer.

 

I want time travel to actually be a thing that exists