What would happen if the U.S. or someone else nuked the city of Mecca. It's a holy city for Muslims. So, one of two things could happen.
I voted that they would start Jihad. But why stop at Mecca? Plenty of other holy sites from various religions can be destroyed to subvert prophecies.
Muslims are the most easily offended people on the world. It's not hard to tell what they will do - try to attack and invade the West. They just need a reason.
Why would anyone “declare jihad” against the whole world if a single nation attacked them? An unprovoked nuclear strike against a civilian target would be rightly condemned around the world. I can’t imagine the people of any nation supporting such an act so any government or individuals responsible would be ousted at the very least. In the hypothetical situation of the attack having popular support, that nation would be a permanent international pariah, facing all sorts of political, economic and military retaliation from around the world. Thankfully, nobody in their right mind would actually contemplate such an act and those not in their right mind aren’t in the position to follow through with their sick fantasies.
I think if there was a racist white organization worth their salt would try something like this. You know, like in "Sum of all Fears", but with setting off the bomb in Mecca instead.
Such an act doesn't necessarily make someone not in their right mind. Also, calling ideologically-based goals "sick fantasies" is somewhat excessive, don't you think? Not that I'm defending Grugore's reasons for posing this question.
No, I don't think imagining the mass slaughter of potentially millions of innocent people on the sole basis of a warped ideological bias could be anything other than an act of insanity and I have absolutely no pause in calling such fantasises as absolutely sick. If it wasn't for the rules of the forum, I would probably have gone further. The biggest irony is that it's exactly the kind of thing you might hear from the extremist Islamists he claims to oppose.
I see. I'll just say for the moment that sometimes "innocent" isn't the same as "non-problematic". What rules of the forum would you have broken? It might be ironic that Grugore says this about Islam. However, extremist Christianity and extremist Islam are simply two opposing forces. I would say it was only ironic if Grugore claimed that Christianity was a more peaceful religion or something along these lines.
OK, if you want to play petty word games; a strategic nuclear strike against Mecca would kill millions of "non-problematic" people. Personal insults. My objection has nothing to do with where or who the target is. Proposing an unprovoked nuclear strike against any civilian target is indefensible (and no, the people living in and around Mecca in general have not provoked it).
All I mean to say is that just because someone is innocent of crimes, doesn't necessarily make them any less a problem for certain people. I didn't know personal insults weren't allowed. Good to know. Even if those civilians hold opposing views? When I said "non-problematic", I meant "not a problem in any way." For some, mental opposition can also be cause for eradication. However, many are numb to the negative effects other's opinions can have, and thus defend their opposition on the basis of being innocent of causing physical harm. Which is simply one form of harm.
The vast majority of the people who would be affected by a strategic nuclear strike on Mecca are of absolutely no “problem” to anyone. Just like anywhere else, most are normal people getting on with their lives with minimal impact on anyone or anything outside their immediate surroundings. I’m amazed I have to actually say this but some people holding opposing views is not justification for indiscriminate mass murder! If we were talking about some kind of targeted strike against specifically identified individuals you might have the beginnings of an argument. The topic here is an indiscriminate nuclear strike against a massively populated area and the only justification appears to be “Because Islam”. I think you’re giving the OP far, far too much credit.
Possibly. But if it were the United States (as Gugore suggested) who was responsible, Pakistan might have some difficulty using their nuclear weapons to retaliate immediately. Pakistan's missiles do not have inter-continental capabilities.
The vast majority of the people who would be affected by a strategic nuclear strike on Mecca are of absolutely no “problem” to anyone. Just like anywhere else, most are normal people getting on with their lives with minimal impact on anyone or anything outside their immediatesurroundings. Possibly. But they can still condemn in their minds things others enjoy or accept. They teach it, spread it, and it becomes physically enforced by law. For example, I know alchohol is banned in Saudi Arabia and thus, in Mecca. I know many people in Western nations enjoy alchohol. That is just one aspect of a vast array of differences. Why the the two societies would want to coexist in the same world is beyond me. I’m amazed I have to actually say this but some people holding opposing views is not justification for indiscriminate mass murder! Sorry if you felt you had to explain it. I should have told you that I'm aware many people see it that way. If we were talking about some kind of targeted strike against specificallyidentified individuals you might have the beginnings of an argument. The topic here is an indiscriminate nuclear strike against a massively populated area and the only justification appears to be “Because Islam”. I think you’re giving the OP far, far too much credit. I see. But I am aware of the topic regarding a large-scale strike on someone's mental opposition. But you are correct, I might be giving Grugore too much credit. Grugore's motivations are also possibly not so much about perspective purity, but rather a sense of religious superiority.
You mean they have stopped running around their Shrine and turning it into butter? Oh! Wait that's an African story being phased out in American schools and libraries.
Guess what, Mecca cannot be touched because you would have to MURDER EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO IS RIGHTEOUS AT THEIR CORE. It is obvious, that ignorance and non-contemplation are the theme(s) of many conversations.
