What exactly did Trump get for the US in Singapore?

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  1. Daggdag

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    Obama didn'nt give iran any money. Not a single cent of US tax money was given to them The money was already theirs. It was simply frozen by US sanctions. Part of the Iran deal was the US lifting the santions keeping the accounts frozen. And yes that is a pretty good deal for 10 years with nno bombs, And giving up over 90% of their enriched uranium, and allowing regular inspections. Unfreezing a few accounts is not a bad deal for all of that. .
     
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    Pallets of cash, pallets of cash.
     
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    Of course we can destroy NK with nukes that’s the easy as **** part even Trump could manage it. The hard part is not triggering a nuclear Armageddon when we do it. You don’t get to call me ignorant when you don’t even understand what MAD is. Get lost.
     
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    Kim has been a legitimate leader of a nation for some time. The elite think the past dictates the future. Don’t try anything or your elite experts might be proved wrong.
     
  5. Josephwalker

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    Obama gave Iran billions knowing it would fund terrorism and kill more US troops in Iraq and pave the road to getting nukes in a mere ten years. Yeah great deal.
     
  6. truth and justice

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    Which US troops have been killed in Iraq by Iranians since 2015?

    Oh, and Israel stated before the deal that Iran will get the nukes within 6 months. Trump's action have given license to Iran to now tear up that deal if they so wish so well done Trump on allowing Iran to understandably go back to researching nuclear development

    Oh, and the nuclear material and equipment that Iran gave up was worth many billions more than the less than $2B of Iranians own money returned to them
     
  7. Evan245

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    I think a more accurate question would be :

    "Which US troops were killed in Iraq by Iranian funding since 2015"?

    The answer to that would be, thanks to B. Hussein .... all of them.

    Iran Dominates in Iraq After U.S. ‘Handed the Country Over’
     
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    This is who Obama gave billions of dollars to. Just no way to defend that.

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...deaths-of-500-u-s-troops-in-iraq-afghanistan/
     
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    You seem to have ignored the question. So which US troops in Iraq have been killed by Iranian funded groups since the date of the deal?
     
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    You, too, are making the brash and incorrect assumption that a deal was struck in Singapore.
     
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    That's what the man is telling us, even said we can sleep easy from now on
     
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    Wasn't legitimate in the eyes of the world, always thought of as a wacko to avoid, now, Trump has given him the stage, recognized him as a functioning world power
     
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    It cannot be forgotten that Trump is only where he is with N. Korea because of Moon. And China. So South Korea and China are responsible for the turnaround, not the US.
     
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    Trump did lift sanctions, we’ll just have to see where the money travels.
     
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    Yeah .....

    So .... why didn't S. Korea and China accomplish this over the last .... I don't know, half century or so?

    It's just a coincident it occurs in 2018 under President Trump, right?

    Your TDS is showing.
     
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    Can’t tell if a troll response or serious....

    Maybe in the land of Texas, TDS exists but in reality it doesn’t. China finally stepped up to North Korea and said no to exporting goods to the country, such as food. Without China, NK is sunk. That alone is a big factor in Kim coming to the table.
     
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    And why did China do that...
     
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    Yeah ....

    I read what you posted the first time.
     
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    Why did China step up to NK? Could be they’re getting a new lifelong president, could be they are fed up with NK costing them billions. Many factors, but more than likely little of it has rto do with Trump. The minute Trumpets admit that, the minute we can begin having a real conversation.
     
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    You can't have a "real conversation" with someone who is unwilling to give Trump credit when he accomplishes things that are good for America and the world. It doesn't matter how you feel about Trump, he was not my first choice either, but bringing NK to the negotiating table is a good thing. Every step we take towards denuclearization is a good thing.
     
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    So you think NK has the capability to inflict MAD against us?
     
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    HELLO! Saying we can sleep easier and announcing a done deal are not the same thing. It is even possible any real deal might have to be approved by the Senate as a treaty, unless in that situation Trump follows Obama's lead.
     
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    I think NK can hurt us with their nukes but they’re not the only threat. Nuclear war is sloppy. Other nuclear powers would object to use irradiating a country so close to them. Russia and chinas early warning system may not be able to distinguish between an attack on them and an attack on a country very close to them when the origin point is the US.

    There’s no such thing as clean cut one and done nuclear war.
     
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    We are a long way from that
     

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