what gun control do you support?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Troianii, Mar 20, 2013.

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what measures do you support?

  1. mandatory gun registration

    37.9%
  2. pistol ban

    10.3%
  3. barrel shrouding ban

    14.9%
  4. pistol grip ban

    9.2%
  5. clip/mag max capacities (please explain)

    28.7%
  6. 3 day waiting period

    43.7%
  7. ban on automatic weapons

    34.5%
  8. ban on semi-automatic weapons

    16.1%
  9. total ban on firearms

    3.4%
  10. other

    54.0%
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  1. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    are you willfully ignorant and naive? this is the internet people can make any claim they want...you have no idea who you're exchanging posts with or their personal history or motive..you could be a loon planning a school shooting, a drug cartel member securing future gun purchases or a someone with violent criminal record and mental heath problems...

    pure deliberate ignorance is the reason in your case...you're going through contortions trying to justify stupidity


    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/65_see_gun_rights_as_protection_against_tyranny and 60% of americans still believe in the Noah's Arc story, polls only reflect opinion not reality of fact..

    it would be a database of lawful citizens who are permitted to own weapons...data bases of criminals and mental health patients already exist so the objections are phoney ones...
     
  2. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Yep!!

    I have considered that before; now I think I need to consider that in explaining the borderline 'mental' positions many seem to be taking. Many are paranoid, like they're on drugs and someone is coming to take their 'stash'. It makes more sense though, as I consider what you share above.
     
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    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Not good enough.
     
  4. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    And you'll get even MORE of my contempt, if you tell me to "move" again. You need to take that one out of your arsenal of stupid and un-American.
     
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    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    STOP IT (with your good, common sense)... you'll cause the brains of the paranoid conspiratorialists to 'explode'. LOL!! :)
     
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    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    You're right about this brother!!

    The extremists (gun-huggers) who have for 30+ years been 'influenced' by the NRA, don't see sense in what you are sharing; but I'm pretty sure the lose-ends related to firearms proliferation in this society, are about to be 'tightened-up'. It's on the way and just a matter of time.

    Enough people have already died (for all the wrong reasons), to motivate THE AMERICAN PEOPLE (and I'm one of them).
     
  7. Johnny-C

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    Which ones are not being enforced? Even so, lets get the ones we already KNOW we need but do not have.

    For one, we KNOW there are gaping HOLES in the laws which pertain to purchasing guns overall.

    Look, I and millions of other Americans WILL NOT be satisfied until every person BUYING/SELLING a gun and the gun itself is accounted for by some permanent record. To save lives, it is something we must implement and 90% of Americans agree.

    I don't know what these laws are that we haven't been enforcing... but it is VERY possible that they aren't worth sh__ anyway. If you have more information on these laws, it will be interesting to know about them.

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    I wish that you wouldn't.
     
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    Other. Being NONE.
     
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    http://clashdaily.com/2013/04/cruz-...s-tried-to-buy-guns-obamas-doj-prosecuted-44/

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    ovomit and holder and the two fat dykes are the biggest illegal gun runners in the world.
    They are also mass murderers.
     
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    True-True ... They should be dying for the right reasons ... Like in abortion clinics.
    I support the idea that every Law-Abiding American should own a firearm and a reasonable amount of ammunition ... :beer:
     
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    We (American society) "need" everyone buying, selling, carrying or using a firearm (a potentially deadly device) to be ACCOUNTABLE. If you can't do that, why should the American people simply TRUST you?
     
  12. Johnny-C

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    Your screen name = 'ignore'.

    Bye.
     
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    Whats wrong with the name BlackSand?
     
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    Thank Goodness ... My Lucky Day.
    Drinks are on me ... WooHoo! :beer:
     
  16. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    The screen name is 'cool'; the commentary was unnecessarily offensive and irrelevant. (I'm not very tolerant these days.)
     
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    Don't mind if I do:alcoholic:
     
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    :) I can relate.
     
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    EggKiller Well-Known Member

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    Don't let it get you down johnny. The left has always been intolerant of opposing view points. No reason you should be an exception.
     
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    Opposing viewpoints are okay; but the method of opposition can certainly be judged; and I certainly WILL do that.
     
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    EggKiller Well-Known Member

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    So who's your avatar? Wouldn't mind buying her a drink:wink:
    A late welcome to the club if you will.
     
  22. Libertarian ForOur Future

    Libertarian ForOur Future New Member Past Donor

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    Why not? In my eyes, I'm deemed as a criminal and I've done something wrong. Too much of my personal life is already out on the internet, all of which I don't care for. It's sad to the point that if someone knows some one else name, folks can find out everyone's life history, if they so chose. In yet, if I subject myself to another centralized database, I'll never have a 'private' life anymore.

    If the case is to be made to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, then advocate for a centralized database of all known criminals & mentally ill folks. Have background checks ran against that database. Why does my information need to be populated in there? If you run my information against it and I'm not a criminal or mentally ill person, the same results will apply. I'm not a criminal or have mental health problems, no reason to put me in the database, I come back as a legit and folks can sell me guns. You don't need my information in order to do that, just like you don't need to know I own a gun.

    In the end, this seems more about getting to know everyone's life more so than anything else and leaves the door open for too much fraud. I don't pry into anyone's life, please don't pry into mine.
     
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    That is the reality of technology; I'm not sure where that is going.

    But where it pertains to hardware like firearms... sorry, I want the authorities (and neighbors if necessary, in a given set of possible circumstances) to know. Public safety, is worth certain personal sacrifices, in my view.
     
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    Absolutely eggree eggzactly. A post from wyle in red.



    it would be a database of lawful citizens who are permitted to own weapons...data bases of criminals and mental health patients already exist so the objections are phoney ones...


    Now who could possibly deduce the logic of needing a database for the innocent and sane if there's already a database for the criminals and nuts?
    It should be just as easy as you state. My name is NOT on the DO NOT sell list I'm good to go. Anything else is stupid on every level.
    One would hope there are fewer criminals and mentally deficient in this country than upstanding citizens. Isn't it just logical to keep a DO NOT list as opposed to vice versa?
    Anything else is registration and surveillance of law abiding citizens.
     
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    I reject the notion that's the reality of technology. We can keep accurate databases without them needing to be centralized. The only time you should have a centralized database is when you need some criminal database for the police to look up criminals. Outside of that, why do you need to know what I own?

    If public safety is the concern, knowing what I have isn't going to change that. So you'll have all law abiding citizens guns on record, how many illegal guns do you think will still be out there that you won't be able to trace? When the journalist decided to publish all of the legal gun owners information out on the internet, that journalist just made, in my eyes, all of the citizens around those legal gun owners more vulnerable. Why? What houses do you think criminals are now going to target? Chances are, they won't hit the houses that have guns in them. If public safety is a concern, that reporter didn't help that cause out.

    I can use a lot of quotes to end my statement, but I think, simply put, the best statement for this is 'don't wish for something because you just might get it'. I don't mean that in a good way either.
     
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