What is Americas ''beef'' with Mexico?

As an external observer it seems to me Americas ''beef'' with Mexico is still blaming the present population for the past populations actions?

A simple age old grudge, rather petty I might say.

 

That would be because you have no damn idea whats going on. We are supplying Mexico an escape valve for refugees that were created by more than a century of bad government policy. If that doesn't stop they have no incentive to clean up their act.

 

I am not sure how that answers my question, why wouldn't America let in Mexicans when from an external observers view, the Mexican is American and Mexico is a part of the Americas. Why are you divided ?

 

You might as well ask why we don't just annex Mexico. What you have here is a completely nonsensical formulation.

 

You quite clearly have not give an answer, if you don't know why , you could just say. Quite clearly there is no real reason, reminds me of the situation of North and South Korea. So why does your border patrol shoot people trying to cross your borders from Mexico?

 

I don't know where you're from, but what makes you think we have a beef with Mexico?

 

I believe somebody wanted to build a wall to keep Mexicans out?

I know you have a border and if criminals cross it into Mexico they are beyond your boundaries, so it is not hard to presume America has ''beef'' with Mexico.

Why have a border at all? Is Mexico not a part of the America's?

 

We do let in Mexicans, legally. Why should we not uphold our laws, and let Mexicans game the system, by overstaying their visas, and entering our country illegally?

 

We actually have a fence already and in some sections a wall that is easily breached. The reason some Americans (not me) want to build a substantial wall is because as many as 18 million people are currently residing in the United States illegally and many of them have entered through the southern border. We don't actually need a wall, however. We just need to enforce the laws already in existence.

I think you are referring to nonextradition. I'd hardly call that an issue.

Uhhh? Because every nation on Earth has a border?

Uhhh? You realize Mexico is a seperate county from the United States, right? As are all the countries that comprise "The Americas."

 

We are divided because we are separate countries. How do you not understand this?

 

How can you be two different countries? The Mexicans were not there before Columbus was they? Please explain?

If my history serves me correctly, in short, Columbus discovered the Americas , England and most of Europe went over there and killed all the native Indian's off, then some people got greedy and thought hey we could have a country, then had a civil war kicking the rest of Europe out and claiming it to be their land. All Americans actually being descendants of Europe. So were the Mexicans already there to begin with ?

 

I sense a troll. What country are you from Equality so we can assess your country's situation.

When the citizens of one country are taking advantage of the others, it's not a mutually beneficial relationship.

 

You sense a troll because I do not know how Mexicans got to being in Mexico? Where did the Mexicans come from is a simple question.

p.s My country is a dump . I am in the UK , England.

added- If I was to get into politics, I would first like to understand how the world ''ticks''.

 

There are history books that explain the origins of all countries. I suggest you start there or WIKI.

 

That would be a boring lonely education without interaction, if you do not know the answer just say you don't know. I like to hear peoples versions rather than Wiki at times, people sometimes make more sense.

 

As I thought , Europeans, so Europeans entered Mexico and Europeans entered America , so where did the divide come from?

 

Mexico is a combination of both indigenous people and Spaniards. After the Mexicans liberated themselves of Spain's rule, there was a war with the United States for the border of what, more or less, became today's border, but the Mexican people inhabited much of the west, including TX, NM, AZ, CA, NV, UT, CO.

You're going to have a hard time with this issue on this forum in particular because at the very heart of it lays the dark underbelly of America's racism.

 

I can try explaining the concept of "countries" to you if you find it necessary.

They weren't called Mexicans and didn't speak Spanish, but there has been genetic and cultural continuity between the Mexicans and the peoples who lived in that land for millennia previous.

Controversial on a few points, but not important.

Most of Europe? No. Most of Europe was not involved in the colonization of the Americas.

Nor were all the natives killed. Pre and post-Colombian genetic markers are at about parity, speaking here mostly of both European and African migration.

A lot of people.

No.

There were people living on that land who have had cultural and genetic continuity to the present day.

 

Oh I see where this is going. Well I tell ya what, pull out a map and look at the black line between The United States and Mexico. It is just below the U.S. states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California. These states are located in the southwestern part of our country and collectively make up what we call the "border states." The reason we call them border states is because they are... wait for it... on the border.

So you see that black line on the map is the border. It is what separates Mexico and the United States - two sovereign nations. Now if you look even further south (that's "down" on a map) you'll see another black line at the bottom of Mexico. That is another border! This one is with Guatemala - also a sovereign nation, but part of the "Americas." You can repeat exercise all the way down Argentina, yet another sovereign nation.

In order for people to cross these lines called borders, each country makes its own rules and then countries make agreements with one another to specify how each country's citizens will enter and exit, how long the can stay, etc.. I hope this has been helpful to your understanding of international borders.

 

Just look at the history. Neither the Anglophones or Latin Americans have fully united themselves. Do you want a step-by-step explanation of American history since Columbus or something?

 

A 'beef' insinuates we are responding emotionally just to hurt them but my stance is one of reason and to ensure a better future for my family and my children.

 

Well yes, I was thinking of venturing down those lines, racism does not exist in the form we think it exists. There is subjective racism and then there is objective racism. I would need to put swear words and racists remarks to show the meaning of this. So will avoid this discussion I think.

 

Maybe, I am English, I find it pretty cool that I can speak to somebody half way across the world , especially Americans, I recognise that America is one of the leading influences on the world. I also think America could change the world if they really wanted too.

 

As a father do you think another mans children should have any less than your own children?

 

Cultural struggles are generally about political power and the right to say what happens in what they view as their home. A growing outside culture has throughout history been precieved as a threat to the existing population.