What is the worst decision by Biden and the Democrats on Afghanistan? (Poll)

There were so many insanely stupid decisions by Biden and the Democrats running his Administration it's quite amazing. Which are the worst?

(1) Leaving an gigantic arsenal for the Taliban.

(2) Pulling your military before your civilians and allies.

(3) Not notifying our allies.

(4) Closing Bagram Airbase.

(5) Not taking the Taliban's offer to control Kabul during surrender.

(6) Leaving allies behind

(7) Leaving Americans behind

( Not pulling our Marines back when we knew there was an imminent threat.

(9) Refusing the British PM's call for over 40 hours.

(10) Giving a list of our people and allies to the Taliban.

 

I didn't vote because I don't see the point in ranking them. It doesn't matter to which one is worst. All of it together is not okay.

 

How about lying every step of the way, including and perhaps especially, that the afghani government would last for months and no Saigon scenario would be brought about.

Or making the Taliban the Head of Airport Security. Was probably the Head of ground intelligence too.

Or firing absolutely no one. Buck stops with that soldier that made that video questioning their decision making, apparently.

Still don’t know what deal(s) were cut with the Taliban, unless I missed it.

At the end of the day, it’s a much less safe Afghanistan and a much less safe world. Nothing to feel good about whatsoever.

 

You make some real points. I only had 10 spots, but those are worthy as others on the list. The endless amount of **** ups by the Biden Administration is incredibly destructive for the nation.

 

No "All of the above"?

 

A totally valid criticism. I would have had to leave a worthy item off the list. I only wanted 10 and it looks like I could have gotten well towards 20.

Democrats delivered pure failure in their surrender.

 

same as Trump, "Pulling your military before your civilians and allies."

 

that I approve of, had he said the Taliban will easily take the Afghan army, and then they did, wow, that would have come back to haunt him

everyone would say they attacked because he told them how weak Afghanistan was

the 20+ year war is over, that is a good thing

 

What thread are you in? What is this non-stop Orange Man Bad about? Does it ever stop with you?

You can't even acknowledge the huge and numerous mistakes of the Biden Administration? It's just right to the Orange man or you?

 

Adhering to Trump's idiotic deal with the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government.

Where is that option?

 

That's under the "nutter conspiracy theory propaganda" category. That was long ago debunked. If you want to discuss it, make a thread about it.

Again, please try and stay on topic. This is about the multitude of horrible Biden decisions.

Seriously, every thread isn't about that terrible orange guy.

 

Speaking of nutters:

Trump complained on a radio show that the media spent 'all night' Sunday covering the devastation wrought by Hurricane Ida instead of his 'great agreement' with the Taliban

"All they talked about was the hurricane. You look at CNN and you look at MSDNC, these are horrible. Unfortunately, they're way down in ratings, but all they wanna talk about is the hurricane or anything else they can talk about," Trump told conservative radio show host Todd Starnes on Monday, intentionally mixing up MSNBC's name.

"Afghanistan is not even something that can even be discussed in a rational way. The level of stupidity - and we had a great agreement," Trump said.

... https://news.yahoo.com/trump-complained-radio-show-media-030247850.html​

Yeah, I know you don't want a thread about the cluster that Trump created for Biden and Afghanistan alike with his "great agreement" with the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government -- and thus contributed greatly to its collapse -- to be about him, but too bad. It ultimately is.

 

Are you going to keep derailing threads with your non-stop obsession with the bad orange man? Seriously, make a thread on it. What are you doing polluting every thread?

 

You can't stop. Wow.

Is it alright to just derail threads on this forum from now on? Can we just post about whatever we want, regardless of the thread topic?

(Those are questions for the entire community to consider. Is alright to just pollute every thread?)

 

what do you think I just did, I said which one I voted for, and I said I also was critical of Trump for the same thing - re-read the post you replied too

if you're gonna attack a poster for not acknowledging mistakes Biden made, at least do it on a post where they did not acknowledge a mistake Biden made, lol

I wonder, can you admit Trump made mistakes with concern to Afghanistan? the right gets way too upset when anyone points out Trump's faults... wow

 

Trump must think Biden did well and is now trying to steal all the credit, lol, while taking none of the blame

personally, I think they both get some credit and some blame - but the war ended on Biden's watch, so Biden gets that

 

If I had the ability to fire Biden I would call him into my office, tell him he was fired, hand him the OP list, and tell him he had 10 minutes to clean out his desk and exit the White House. Then I would call White House security to escort him out.

 

The deal was for the Taliban and Afghan government to negotiate. They were incorporated into the agreement.

 

What an indicting list of the sheer incompetence we had witnessed over the last two weeks, but hearing the report that the Taliban offered us to maintain control of Kabul itself until the withdrawal and we refused, is the last freaking straw. Alot of this info coming out is competing heads to save their jobs, but if it were up to me, I'd be like: "All of the above. State Department, Sec of defense, etc. You're all fired henceforth immediately."

No one should escape culpability for this, the death of US servicemen and women, and such a deteriorating situation that we ended up giving the Taliban massive propaganda in the form of the failed drone strike.

The thing that upsets me the most, is that this is supposed to be exactly why we have a military command and why the President as CIC oversees it. As a civilian government, we have limitations. The military is supposed to bridge the gap in those limitations. The failure to do so is in essence, failure of the basic task of the job.

Basically, we're back where we were in 2001: "Do you trust the government to keep you safe?"(remember that poll question?) The answer has once again become a resounding no. 20 years later.

 

All the above. I for one am glad we are the hell out of there. Twenty f'ing years of lost lives and limbs and trillions of dollars, for what? What a complete and utter waste. But man, there were definitely better ways to handle the withdraw.

 

You left out the option of "All of the above".....

 

I see Trump is still as selfless as ever. Glad to see he has less of an ego since losing re-election. Losing seems to have humbled him....<sarcasm off>

 

sorry but it wasn’t adhered to. Had it been adhered to fully this would have not been so messy

 

the 20 year war does not exist in a vacuum. You can pretend like it does but I’m not going to sit at the Alice in wonderland tea party with you

 

So many worsts, so little time.