What is wrong with "slut shaming"?

Spot on. This is also why I think there is a semantic issue to the term InCel as their state is not really involuntary. Either they are men who - as you describe - have unrealistic standards and expectations or they are men with self-esteem issues who have not even tried to change their situation due to fear of rejection and a deep-rooted self-hate.

Yes, young men and women of today come from households of divorced parents. a teenage life spent on social media where everyone is creating an exaggerated self-image to boast about themselves and a society where media and pop culture tells them settling down is bad and that "experimenting" is the key to happiness. They grow up thinking absence of love is normal.

The West is truly messed up.

 

1) Exactly. It's not involuntary at all. While social decay is the cause, they are still choosing not to find a nice ordinary girl to settle down with. They're still holding out for a supermodel.

2) Yes, the West is screwed. We did the unthinkable, that which even animals know not to do. We pooped were we ate.

 

Very few InCels are violent.

InCels commit about 10 million acts of Misdemeanor per year -- paying for Escort Service. According to the law, they are as guilty as their paid partners.

 

Interfere in our elections.

How is it, I keep wondering, that it wasn’t all that long ago and most conservatives were saying the most horrible things about Russians. In fact, it was rather common to hear conservatives, in their ongoing efforts to denigrate liberals to accuse everyone on the left of being influenced by the Russians.

Then y’all started comparing Putin to Obama, claiming Putin was the he-man that aroused conservatives, whereas Obama left them limp. Now y’all are defending the Russian actions as they helped Dirty Dishonest Despicable Donald Trump in his election and now his re-election bids.


I just can’t figure out what happened. It isn’t like right wing propaganda regularly misleads its followers, or that Russian propaganda has merged with Republican propaganda. I’m sure it is just a coincidence that they seem to go hand in hand these days.

Russia is our friend, they have always been our friend. They helped us defeat those evil liberal Nazis in WWII and helped us defeat the Europeans in the Cold War. With our combined efforts, we can conquer the world. Free the world from those pesky liberals who insist on honesty, fair play, and democracy. Let dear leader decide, because Trump is the smartest, bestest ever.

 

About once a month from about age 12 to sometime in their 40’s, women menstruate. Scary, isn’t it?

 

It is kind of hard to take respectfully, those who want to limit my freedoms. It is one of those crazy things about conservative rhetoric. On one hand y’all pretend to be about freedom and individual rights, and then you condemn those who exercise those rights and seek to have them restricted. Right wing is authoritarian, by definition, and here you are, once again, proving it.

 

That’s a usual thing with widows and widowers. I saw this behaviour toward my widowed mother and mother in law. It must be some sort of pheromone.

 

As if the US has never interfered in any foreign elections. I am pretty sure foreign intervention in elections is far, far, far more common than most people think.

Political fanboy-ism, I guess. The fampous "It's OK when we do it"-syndrome. Same reason why Cons were quiet when Bush bombed the crap out of the Middle East where as Libs were vocal and why Libs shut up like clamps when Obama did it and why they are vocal when Trump does it.

Nothing new under the sun.

"Y'all"? Dude, I am not even American.

Everything is just as it has always been.

America has caused much more damage to the West than Russia ever has. Russia is more of a natural friend of Europe's than is America. America is Europe's unwashed, barbaric cousin and I hope Trump dismantles NATO so that us Europeans and the world as a whole can once and for all get rid of you guys.

 

InCel is a label of self-identification. Just because you are a virgin, it does not mean you are an InCel. Just because you are "involuntarily virgin", it does not mean you are an InCel.

InCel is a community of men who blame society and other external factors for their misfortunes and who find excuses and reasons not to change in forums where they meet likemided men.

I support prostitution on a legal level, but not a social one. In the healthiest of societies, there would not even be any demand for any sort of sexual prostitution be it hookers, strippers or porn stars.

 

Thanks for the block quote, gets the truth out to more lurkers. The above inanity is understandable in that you have no adult response. Kind of surprised though that it wasn't more LARPING anecdotes and other make believe.

 

How are they seeking to limit your rights? Shaming is a method of social management which happens when there are no 'limits'. Obviously. If there are laws, no shaming is needed.

 

There are no so blind as those who will not see!

 

Definition of humane


1: marked by compassion, sympathy, or consideration for humans or animals.
2: characterized by or tending to broad humanistic culture

 

Which absolutely does not apply to modern Left.

 

Nonsense.

 

Both the Left and the Right are far from Humanitarianism. The Left is more aggressive, Totalitarian.

 

I think you’re mistaken. This thread is about slut shaming. It’s not the lefties on this forum who are saying “ yeah , they’re sluts. Name and shame.”
Nothing to do with the self righteous men who are the other half of the reason these women are being called sluts, oh no.

 

In my opinion, slut shaming a woman is wrong, unless she shames men who disagree with her agenda by calling them InCel. This is an issue, where the Left is more humane. The Left is also more Humane in supporting State Charity and opposing guns.

The Left is inhumane in supporting Presumption of Guilt. The Left is inhumane in suppression of Opposition. In USA, Antifa is very violent. In Australia and UK, thousands of people have been imprisoned for online posts.

 

In Australia, are you sure?

 

If anyone calls someone an Incel in an insulting manner, the correct response is “sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me”.

 

My favourite version of that is from Robert Heinlein “an insult is like wine - it only affects if accepted”

 

I guess, most normal people (normies) are not easily insulted. Most people with mental disability are easily insulted. Fortunately I have moderate depression rather then severe depression.

 

Easy for me to say then. Try to ignore them.

 

I’m pretty well convinced it’s a maturity thing, not an age thing. Age can increase maturity, but it’s no guarantee.

As far as sexual ideas in the US, I believe they are dictated by media(advertising) and entertainment. Ninety-nine percent of people are just acting out what their marionettists dictate. There really isn’t any thought involved.

 

Only "woman" who would use "InCel" as an insult is one of the mentality of a high school girl. Only children use shaming tactics and bullying.

"Slut shaming" is not wrong if it is done right. A healthy society has to shame unhealthy lifestyles and undesirable life choices - Norms and social structures serves as a glue to civilisaton and a hurdle to our inner, primitive ape.

"State chairty" is not charity in any sense of the word. Charity is voluntary and comes from the heart rather than from gunpoint. Additionally, taking in one dollar for "charity" to use 80 cents to pay bureaucrats and 20 cents for the needy is nothing close to the true definition of charity.