What is wrong with "slut shaming"?

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  1. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Horse pucky. States have laws that define who is and who is not a consenting adult. It is not arbitrary. Are you perhaps just embarrased that you used that old "pedophiles and rapists" meme and got caught out for it? You think you're fit to judge others, but how do you like it when that table turns? Are you without faults?
     
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    Every private decision someone makes affects me or someone I care about in some way. Thus it is my business.
     
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    I'm not guilty of the sexual acts that I condemn.
     
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    Can not one live a life of pleasure, the whole sex, drugs and Rock n Roll routine, and still do much to help the poor and protect the planet.
     
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    No objection at all as long as your belief in your cause is strong enough that you do it all with only your own money, and none of the taxpayer's money.
     
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    Do you know what your position reminds me of? When I was in college, a group of church ladies had heard that college students were having sex in their dorm rooms. These church ladies were all up in arms that their tax money was going to support a college that let students have sex in the dorm rooms. The whole affair just made church ladies the laughing stock of the community.
     
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    Let's take an extreme example : Adolph Hitler (I don't says that liberals are the same than Hitler) despite not caring about human dignity had a sensibility against animal cruelty. Even the most cruel human being isn't only cruelty.

    There is a lot of things playing :
    _ Everybody has contradictions or at least isn't only one thing. For the instance you take : liberals are hedonist, it's true, but they're other things. Hedonism is clearly one of the dominant things among liberals, but not always. Sometimes it's contradiction, sometimes it can be hypocrisy.

    For hypocrisy, I would have two concretes example you have probably already met : people which change of phone/TV/computer every year then cry about overconsumption, the other one is people which speak a lot about how the state should help the poor, have themselves enough money to help a little bit and never give anything.

    _ I make a general statement, but there is variance in any human group. I describe a trend more than an absolute truth.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sex is self-destructive only for those who use it like a drug. Few do. Promiscuity would be much less of a problem if society didn't insist on making it one, especially for women.

    What happens between other consenting adults is none of my business. I wish that were the prevailing attitude.
     
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    Plato had a certain technique that he would use to show how silly an idea is, or not. That is to take an idea to its logical conclusion and see if it still makes sense. If one takes the Republican idea of no taxes, and no regulation, what is left is no government and no country. Just a bunch of yahoos running around with guns.
     
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    You seem to be knocking against one of the characteristics of Republican rhetoric. The parts that don’t square with reality. Listen to the conservative narrative and they will tell you that they are all about freedoms and rights and all that. But they really aren’t. Sex is one of those things that illustrates that they really aren’t about freedom, rights and all that. If you insist too strongly that women have the same rights and freedoms as men, you will be labeled an authoritarian, further illustrating the duplicity of right wing rhetoric.
     
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    Seriously?

    Choose someone you know, or who has been recommended by someone whose judgment you trust. That always worked for me. It's basic, Creasy, it isn't rocket surgery. It does not require knowledge of the prospective sitter's intimate details.

    Are you implying that a young woman or girl who isn't virginal should not be allowed to babysit? Is that a requirement for you? If so, how would you even know? Are you going to require a certificate from her doctor that her hymen is intact?

    Sheesh.
     
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    Why should sexual promiscuity be seen as shameful? As long as proper hygiene to prevent disease is observed and steps are taken to avoid unwanted offspring what is shameful about it?
     
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    Oh, well then, goody for you. That still does not give you the right to sit in judgment on others, nor does it give you the right to ever call a woman a slut.
     
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    Ah, if folks would only get back to believing in Big Daddy and Jess.<sigh> Maybe we can "slut shame" women back to church where an Imaginary Friend will forgive them for their "sins" (if they tithe, of course).

    I find it rather curious you don't find fault with the capitalist system for driving for "profits and power" when most wealthy people are conservatives, not the "gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex" you carry on about,
    Rich conservatives running large corporations are the SOBs pushing opioids, fattening fast food, and mindless consumerism.

    Poor working class folks with low-paying jobs wouldn't be dependent on government services if we didn't have an economic system rich folks tilted in favor of themselves. (Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffett, and Bill Gates have more wealth than the bottom 50% of Americans.) You rail against redistribution as though what we have now is fair.
    How about your seeming type who reject "moral appeals" as leftist, socialist, redistributionist, godless, feminist, etc?
    They "control" consumer spending because they're the ones stuck with shopping for the family.
    You're sure about that, are you?

    Sex is the forbidden fruit for women, so why wouldn't it be a good idea for the rich conservatives running corporations to entice them with the proverbial apple?
    Is that what rich folks running business are doing to women?
    Maybe the exploitation you described is an attack on women.
    Sounds as though the rich folks running business aren't playing nice.
     
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    LOL! No, the label I get from most conservatives, especially men, is "feminazi." Those who don't or won't understand tend to lash out with name-calling, especially when you point out things like hypocrisy and double standards.
     
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    I disagree. Though in fact I would never call a woman a "slut" anyway as the OP states, I absolutely loathe that term.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Some of you Trumpites sure have screwy ideas.
     
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    Conservatives are the most repressive people around. The only 'freedoms' they want to preserve are their freedoms to poison our air, water, and food along with the "freedom to fail" and "freedom to starve" The conservative idea of "freedom" suffocates most people.
     
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    Does homosexuality scare you?
     
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    I feel exactly that way about conservatism, only I have reasons. Do you?
     
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    You'd choose a babysitter based upon judgments?

    But...

    "It's unethical to judge other people, period."

    - Seep Monster
     
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    Men are trying to control women's sexuality.
     
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    "Sin" is what Christians identify based on their book at an Imaginary Friend.
     
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    :roflol: Everyone in the world ??!!!! You need to know the business, the sex life, of EVERYONE in the world ?!!!!!??? WHAT!!!?


    HOW?
     
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