What is your take away from the 2020 election?

That was remarkable, despite all the 'Trump is a racist' propaganda he actually increased his vote amongst Hispanics and African Americans? I think Texas and Florida are off the table for the DNC

 

I disagree, he has a great chance to establish a political dynasty, Ivanka would be a shoe in?

 

Might that be a better system?

 

Since that is based upon exit polls they are are obviously not an accurate image of what actually occured.

https://en.as.com/en/2020/11/10/latest_news/1605013158_639997.html

From the data above it is clear that it is skewed by IN-PERSON voting as apposed to Mail-in ballots.

The first highlighted comment above can only have come from in-person voting since that is when the majority of that demographic voted.

The second highlighted comment shows two conflicting messages where Hispanics supported Biden in AZ but allegedly cost him FL and TX. That makes no sense unless the data is based upon Exit Polls on election day.

The final comment indicates that Biden received around the same percentage of black votes as in prior elections rather than FEWER as is being erroneously alleged.

IOW's it is still TOO SOON to draw any conclusions from the exit data. There are still 6 million outstanding votes waiting to be counted so making ASSUMPTIONS based upon INCOMPLETE data is essentially what is happening NOW.

 

That's what they said after Perot ran. Then again, that was 6 cycles before Trump.

To piggy back on your comments, though, my biggest takeaway from this election is that we have a permanent 1/3 to 2/5 of our population that believes in Trump's agenda. His success was not a fluke: it was a demonstration of WHO WE ARE, as a nation. And though it is not anything that I am glad of, it is something that is important for all to accept. I can only hope that this might, in time, lead to a better understanding between ALL GROUPS of Americans, & a decrease in animosities. I realize, however, this is a lot to hope for.

A distant 2nd takeaway, is that pollsters' normal methods are not nearly as effective, & so their results not nearly as accurate, in the UPPER MIDWEST (WI, MI, maybe MN?) & possibly, to a lesser degree, in Pennsylvania.

 

That's absurd.

 

Florida did a pretty good job. Nevertheless, your vote was invalidated.

 

Funny, the "states rights" you hold so dear come from that era. Progressives would like to do away with those. No reason to be locked into them. Say, how do you view states rights when it comes to abortion?

 

Another thing that has rather shocked me is the genuine animus against Hilary Clinton that so many voters seemed to express about her, that they didn't vote for her because they found her personally dislikeable (I have no problem with her myself). Joe Biden seems to have gained a lot of votes simply for not being Hilary Clinton, that he is essentially inoffensive in every way.

 

I think you make a good point although even at this stage it is clear there was none of the overwhelming opposition to him some might have suspected. I would also say the election demonstrates the gulf between city and country, time and again Biden would be leading or tied with Trump but then as more votes were counted the rural votes would put Trump ahead (which I think is why he has such a problem with the results, he seemed to be winning handsomely then the count stopped and he started losing).

 

I respect that, but I disagree. I prefer knowledge to belief, even if that knowledge is incomplete. I'm in the minority on that, but I'm not alone.

 

Multiple ballots, maybe ... but you could still only vote once. And ballots sent to people who had moved were likely returned. Isn't that what you would do? Or would you try to use someone else's ballot? Would you try to use an extra if you received one? If you would have done so, perhaps that explains why you think others would, and on a scale massive enough to change the election results.

Trump lost. Period. Deal with it.

 

Good. Great. Then you agree with those of us who would like to see the Electoral College gone? Everyone's president should be elected via the one person, one vote process?

You have no proof that Democrats or anyone else would "slip in more votes." None. Zero. Nada. Zilch. You just keep harping about it because you're having difficulty accepting the fact that your views are not the views of the majority of Americans. Welcome to Minority Land.

 

So you want NYC, LA and other urban shitholes dictating the national agenda? The Electoral College was so designed for balance.

 

1. I don't consider our cities to be sh!tholes.

2. It's certainly no worse than having policies that affect my life being decided by a bunch of goat ropers in Podunk, Wyoming. (Nothing against Wyoming, just using an apt counter-analogy.)

3. The electoral college was a compromise with what were, at the time, 13 colonies of which many were under-populated with eligible white male property-owning voters. Women couldn't vote then. Slavery was still widely practiced (hence the 3/5 of a person rule). We've long outgrown that unwieldy process. The president represents all Americans, and all votes should bear equal weight. Under the EC, lower populated states have an outsized, and IMO undeserved, advantage.

 

It's not liberals. It's the programs at federal level.

 

It seems that is how the govt has to do programs. Laws are rigid for the most part. And programs are essentially laws.

 

Lol...ill keep my bad ginger joke to myself.

 

Odd, you think facts are absurd. You can easily verify.

In the last 100 years, the number of Christians in the world has quadrupled from about 600 million in 1910 to well past 2 billion presently. Today, Christianity remains the world's largest religious group.
https://www.learnreligions.com/christianity-statistics-700533

Here, 7B people in the world. 2/7 = 28.5% of the world is Christian. Not even 1/3 of the world has heard of or does not believe in your god.
So most of the world isn't hardwired into your thoughts.

 

Where are States rights not protected when it comes to abortion?
I personally don't want anyone I know to abort, but I also don't think I have a right to tell every single woman in the world they are not allowed to abort. It's a personal choice between the woman, doctor, and likely other close family.
As well as health, finance, and likely thousands of other reasons any women would make the extremely difficult choice to abort.

Most every trump supporter at this point is looking to take away States rights, as well as voters rights at this point in time, but not allowing the results of the recent vote to be valid. Even thinking about attempting a coup of sorts.
How's that for your State's rights you hold so dear?

 

She came of an not likeable at all.
I also made a vow to myself, after Bush I, Clinton, Clinton, Bush II, Bush II, to never ever vote for another Bush or Clinton. 2 families at president for over a decade? Why? We are not a kingdom or monarchy.

 

You thought I was serious?

 

1) urban shitholes are just that.
3) Biden does not represent me, nor any other REAL American.

 

Takeaways:

1) We have a massively divided country with information bubbles on both sides.

2) There was what I term a purple wave - massive surge in turnout among both red and blue voters, showing very strong opinions on both sides of the ballot - very unlike 2016.

3) Even after the election, the nation's democratic institutions are still under massive assault by the incumbent. Depending on what happens in the next 2 months, protests on the streets could make the BLM stuff over the summer look like an opening act.

4) Trumpism has conquered the Republican party. 2022 and especially 2024 will bring a field of Trump wannabee political opportunists, ready to capitalize on the electorate's appetite for conspiracy peddling, hyper-partisanship demagoguery.

5) Democrat moderates have suffered significant damage. They may have won the oval office, but losses elsewhere gives a stronger argument for progressives that base pandering and partisan rhetoric is more effective.

6) Russia, China, and America's enemies were the biggest winners.

 

You dislike the electoral college because you know little of anything about our Nations Founding. You, like most collectives want to rule by the masses with little or no respect for the individual.