Others have probably pointed out that "Islam" and "terrorists" are two very different entities. The poll makes no sense for that reason. Trumpery, Pooting and other knee jerkers have said we should "bomb ISIS" but none of them have been able to say just where they would bomb. Pootin bombed fruit markets and went home, and Drumpf says he'll find Muslims by ASKING travelers what religion they are. Bothers me a lot that ever since 9/11, some have said we should just kill everyone in that area or every Muslim. IMO, we should continue to destroy terrorists and leave innocent people alone. In the case of the shooter in Orlando, he said he followed Bagdadi. As it happens, President Obama ordered the strikes that killed Both of Bagdadi's bosses, one of whom was bin Laden. Its Obama who has ordered more than 10K bombings. What's wrong with that? What's wrong with continuing killing ISIS? It should be noted that there are more than 60 other countries who have followed Obama's lead and they should be credited for their strikes as well. BUT, its a fraction of what Obama has done. Let's also give Pooting credit for his very very very very few HITS on actual terrorists. For those who don't know, Pooting counts every plane as an attack. Since WWII, the US has not dropped bombs on non-targets (like Pooting's killing of the fruit stand). Nor has the US counted those as successful attacks as Pooting does.
Our first amendment should be the most sacred of things to defend as an cornerstone of Americanism. You are quick to violate the first amendment but wont do anything about the second amendment even though that's a clear failure. I think people should have the right to practice their religion, and the freedom of expression under circumstances but it's when people use their religion and express things that go against our other laws that we have an issue. But the response should not be to ban Islam, or ban assault rifles. We have to attack the root of the problem. With guns, the issue is that people are mentally ill, am I right? But we've tried to just stop those people from getting guns and that hasn't worked, so we need to physically go in and seize every gun. With Islam, murder is already against the law, but ISIS still exists and still terrorizes the US regardless. So we have to physically go in to the root of the problem, which is not Islam, but ISIS. We havent been able to get rid of them militarily because they are everywhere. So we need stronger surveillance systems, and a disciplined police state. This is mainly to get rid of ISIS as the issue.
This has nothing to do with Islam. The issue is how cultures including our own, deal with modernity. People will resist change. Just look at ourselves. There is a portion of this nation that wants absolutely nothing to change, they only want whatever they think is right to be protected, not changed. This is human nature and Islam is not unique. But the world keeps moving and we are indeed becoming more alike than different. Change is inevitable. Becoming a modern society or culture will require at least the following key attributes. 1. Democracy or a form of self-government. 2. Equal rights for all including and most importantly, women. 3. Education. 4. Reproductive rights for women. 5. Secularism as a bedrock of society, the law and government. This is what we went through, what the west went through and what the rest of the world is going through right now. There is nothing new about the resistance to modernize by Islam, we are still fighting the same idiotic battles right here at home.
"Stopping" terrorism is a fool's errand; it can't be done. The only thing that CAN be entertained is to embrace our scientific advances and drill them into the heads of each generation. The secular business of modern living has knocked more wind out of "religion's" sails than anything else throughout history, but it won't strand the ship without the raucous mutinies we've been witnessing.
do we ban all anti-gay religions? I say no, we go after the people that commit or support crimes like this
I don't think we should ban all religions that are anti-gay, however, I do think we should ban all religions that incite violence against non-believers. Take Islam for example.
you mean like all those Christian mass shooters last year means we should ban the Christian religion... sorry, I disagree
If you can prove by a verse in the new testament that incites violence. Then yes Christianity should be banned or reformed.
the OT is part of the Christian religion, same God, remove it from your bible and we wont count it as part of what your God thinks and says and maybe your followers wont be so anti-gay (they get that from the OT you know) will you denounce the OT and call it a myth that is not true about your God? I mean according to you the ten commandments is no longer valid as it was part of the OT .
I answered your question already and specifically on this topic. If you don't like my answer that's tough. - - - Updated - - - Please take your personal bigotry and hatred of Christians somewhere else.
No, listen to the President, most Democrat politicians and most Democrats and "progressives" on the forum. This has nothing to do with the religion of Islam or Muslims whatsoever - and any Muslim or Islamic religious or government leader who claims it does is obviously lying. Yes, many Democrats are that self-destructively delusional and utter fools. - - - Updated - - - Are you a Star Trek fan?
I am a Christian myself, that's why I asked whether someone could provide a verse in the new new testament which incites hatred.
No one follows the OT anymore, and I will denounce the OT as it does promote violence. The Christian religion reformed itself to a more modern day religion, it is now up to Islam to do the same thing.
If you cannot assimilate into this country that welcomes you with open arms, I say get out or be thrown out. We are a Nation of Freedoms and we should not change as a whole to accommodate a particular religion as it seems we have to appease a select group. NONONO !
The question should have been - "How are we going to stop people being radicalised and commit terrorist acts?".
glad to hear, and I agree, time for Muslims fanatics to enter the 21st century, this is no longer biblical times
This always interests me. I come from an immigrant family to Australia. We moved into a suburb heavily populated by Germans and Dutch. Our entire street was German and Dutch except for a Scottish family two doors down. The Dutch families were all related to each other. At first glance, any outsider would think we didn't assimilate and remained in our ethnic hub. It was my generation that moved away first into other suburbs as we moved on. My parents (in their 80s) still live in the same street, as does the elderly Dutch woman across the street. The rest of the street is now more Australian than it was in the 1960s. You'll find the first generation of immigrants will usually remain in their ethnic hubs, to be nearer people of their own ilk. This appears they aren't assimilating. The following generations will move away into more diverse areas.
This is why mass immigration doesn't work. We need a break from immigration to allow those first generation immigrants to assimilate with the rest of Australia.
Immigration worked very well in the 60s, 70s and into the 80s,, a period of greatest mass immigration Australia has known.
Get them the hell out of this country and Europe. Then bomb ISIS until they're all dead. Use a tactical nuke if need be.
Your apparent misunderstanding of what a tactical nuke actually is and does along with the actual situation in the world and the Middle East would be hilarious if so many Republicans didn't actually believe it A tactical nuke is meant to be used against CONCENTRATIONS of enemy troops/materiel/forts and has little, if any, real effect over large areas. ISIS is both extremely spread out over very large areas and very well dug in among innocent noncombatants, the very people we are supposed to be liberating
That is a silly response. Try answering the question with something other than exploitive references.
I am, and even on those shows, you see a fair amount of stupidity based in "religion" and cultural differences.
