What to do with unwanted children?

You can go to the border and wait for a caravan and get as many as you like.

 

While were at it lets tackle this problem promoted and fueled by the Democrat party over the last three quarter century!

THE LINK BETWEEN SINGLE MOTHER WELFARE, FATHERLESSNESS, POVERTY AND CRIME

Don't incentify birth..

 

Those caravans are not going to give up their babies when a fulfilling life of labor awaits them at mar a lago. Got to get them jobs.

 

Now the mothers are almost giving them away.

A can of spam and a grape soda is all you need.

 

Sounds like the xmas bonus for illigal workers at mar a lago.

 

Part of the question is what can we do- given the precepts society believes in.
I've long thought a solution for a great many related social problems resulting from this would be to create an infertility implant given to all babys at birth. If and when a person matures, has their stuff together, actually wants children and can provide a good home- then they go to their doctor and have that device removed or however it's done reversed. Be a good idea too that they complete a class on parenting and have a realistic understanding of the responsibility they are taking on.

Now that of course is never going to happen. I do think it's medically possible, and it's the kind of approach that would go the farthest in solving the problem- but I doubt society would ever accept it.

On one hand, we know it's not the child's fault, and we feel great compassion- on the other hand, we can't become the caretaker for the off-spring of every irresponsible person who doesn't care. When such a burden falls on society- society should have some say and power to control it. We somehow have to decide where and how we draw the line. In some areas of society what is called the nuclear family, the traditional kind- is being dismissed as of no value, and the lack of it is highly detrimental to the children that don't have it. This seems to be more prevalent in the black community. In 2015, 77% of black babies were born to unmarried mothers, and that percentage is growing. In some cities like New York, many more black babies are aborted than born. Single parent children are also more likely to be troubled and possibly criminal- and likely to become single parents themselves. It's a very big problem that needs some serious attention.

I think the key to such problems in not just how we deal with unwanted babies- but how do we stop that from occurring in the first place.

 

are they in the CBAA?

 

There's a black market for all those things anyways. Just saying.

LINK: Why America’s Abortion Rate Might Be Higher Than It Appears

 

Good point. Abortion laws failed long before the internet and abortion pills.

 

Read the thread title.

A fetus is not a child therefore any discussion of aborting "children" is simply nonsensical.

 

An unwanted baby still has to become an adult first before it can help as you say.

 

Because to be sure that the adoption sticks and some unknown father doesn't appear making claims later many legalized extortionists, er, lawyers have to get involved. It's why so many people adopt overseas.

 

It is a little bit more complicated than that. A six month old fetus can be aborted or it can be delivered live. Is it only the will of mother of a mother that turns it into a child at 6 months? Additionally if somebody were to kick the mother in the stomach with the explicit intent to kill the fetus, is their only crime assault on the mother or did they murder a child?

I am ambivalent about this issue in general. If people are evil enough to kill their own children, I don't want them reproducing, removing their genes from the pool is good for humanity. Let the decent people reproduce.

 

Maybe we can have a Black friday for adoptions.

But yes it is surprising how much it costs. I had relatives that looked into it, By the time they paid all the fees they couldn't afford kids so they got a rescue dog.

His name is Buster.

 

Im pro-choice to the extent that I believe abortion should stay legal, even though I believe its morally evil. I think we should take steps to reduce the financial blockages for adoption. Paying folks to adopt would probably be a bad idea, but right now it costs something like $40K on average to adopt, and that seems a bit ridiculous. At the very least, we could reduce a lot of the legal fees to bring that cost down.

 

I dont think his problem is the human species is going anywhere.

Its that WHITE people are in decline.

 

A fetus is not a child. It is nonsense to talk about aborting a child. IN FACT since to be a child one must be born then it is impossible to abort a child.

Don't make me slap the snot out of you with a Foghorn Leghorn meme!

 

This issue has been brought up numerous times in the Abortion section of the forum.

It has been pointed out that, at least for certain categories of babies, there is no shortage of couples wanting to adopt, and in fact there are actually long wait lists for would-be parents to even get the type of child they want.

These would-be parents often have to "settle" for a different "less desirable" category of child.

The most in-demand category is healthy normal White babies.

 

Since there is a desert for babies to adopt, what is the issue?

 

NO, try science.... a fetus becomes a child at birth.
The "will" of the woman it's in does NOT determine it's stage in life.
Anti-Choicers do not determine it's stage of life either.

They didn't murder a "child" they killed a fetus.

So abortion is fine if it serves YOUR purpose....LOL...

 

Guess somebody doesn't know that they can....

 

Just posted about it....

 

My morals are different than most conservatives. If Democrats want to kill their own kids, who in the hell am I to stop them? Have at it. I am not oblivious about how this will translate into political power in twenty years.

 

My morals are different than most conservatives. If Democrats want to kill their own kids, who in the hell am I to stop them? Have at it. I am not oblivious about this will translate into political power in twenty years.[/QUOTE]



Too funny, you think only Democrats have abortions....wow, if you ever can face the stats you will be in for a shock


Here's the part of my post you "forgot":

NO, try science.... a fetus becomes a child at birth.
The "will" of the woman it's in does NOT determine it's stage in life.
Anti-Choicers do not determine it's stage of life either.

They didn't murder a "child" they killed a fetus.

 

[QUOTE="My morals are different than most conservatives. If Democrats want to kill their own kids, who in the hell am I to stop them? Have at it. I am not oblivious about this will translate into political power in twenty years.[/QUOTE]



FoxHastings: ""Too funny, you think only Democrats have abortions....wow, if you ever can face the stats you will be in for a shock


Here's the part of my post you "forgot":

NO, try science.... a fetus becomes a child at birth.
The "will" of the woman it's in does NOT determine it's stage in life.
Anti-Choicers do not determine it's stage of life either.

They didn't murder a "child" they killed a fetus.







I screwed up the quotes in post 49...first four sentences are hockeydad's...not mine.