What Truthers Believe

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  1. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    You say, "Flash beginning to emerge and where the end of nose/impact location is at"

    You're wrong. The flash is emerging to the right of the nose impact location. Start watching this at the 7:47 time mark.



    I'm sorry. This is simply too clear to obfuscate. It's obvious that you don't even believe that yourself. I assure you that you look very silly when you deny that the nose is inside the building.

    I've got to go now. I'll probably be back tomorrow.
     
  2. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Riiiggghhhhtttt...

    "Too clear" using a crappy, pixelated, zoomed in, low quality video. You obviously have no clue about video anomalies and artifacts.
     
  3. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Look at the screen captures of Jose Canseco swinging a bat.

    Is the bat made of glass that I can see objects BEHIND it (in the red oval)?
    batswing1.PNG

    Is the bat made of glass again? I can see the guy in the stands THROUGH the bat (in the red circle)? How is that possible?!
    batswing2.PNG

    Is he swinging a twig? What happened to the bat thickness?!
    batswing3.PNG
     
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  4. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Here's Barry Sanders running the football. See the SOLID white yard line with the red arrow pointing to it?
    football2.PNG

    Here's Barry crossing that same SOLID yard line. But wait a second!!! It isn't solid anymore!!! How'd that happen!!! Barry must have erased it magically!!!!
    football.PNG
     
  5. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Hey Bob and Scot

    How come you're not on a real conspiracy, Like Obamas Birth certificate.

    Nobody's seen it yet.

    Here is a real chance to get back at the government.
    Or are you just into phony stuff.
     
  6. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    That's because of the artifacting of the video as pointed out in the sports videos. The portion of the nose that extends to the "flash"/impact point is suffering the same video artifacting/anomaly as the yard line and bat in the screenshots from the posts above.
     
  7. Bob0627

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    In other words all you have by your accusation is FOS libel. Your "comments" support nothing of your claim that I'm spreading lies. I posted 47 facts about 9/11 and you only disagreed with #1. I also showed you how and why #1 is 100% correct. That was the extent of your "comments numerous times". Furthermore there wasn't even a hint of an attempt on your part to show how any of these are "embellished" or "out of context". And while I might agree that 1 or 2 or even 3 of these facts are somewhat arguable (yet you haven't been able to successfully argue even 1), "spreading lies" is a whole other matter. The only thing you know how to spread is what the US government wants you to spread on a regular basis.

    It also looks to you like the 3 WTC towers gravitationally collapsed in their entirety at free fall and near free fall as a natural result of the events of 9/11. And it also looks to you like the official 9/11 investigations were "adequate", despite the overwhelming evidence of fraud (that you haven't even bothered to dispute) and despite that you called NIST a bunch of hacks. So much for what it "looks like" to you.
     
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    What the **** for? You see what you want to see and it ALWAYS matches the OCT and/or ALWAYS disputes any and every contradiction. For me this anomaly is only 1 out of hundreds or thousands that include very convenient improbable/impossible coincidences that ALL occurred on 9/11 and that none were legitimately investigated. So chalk this up to just another one that absolutely requires a thorough investigation, not for you of course, nothing does.
     
  9. Robert

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    Sorry for the delay since I was not alerted on this again.

    I do not want to dwell on my ability to know what took place, but i once drove pilings to hold up very heavy structures. This included what get called skyscrapers.

    It happens that had the two towers been built like the Empire State building, with severe damage, the Empire State building would have handled the airplanes.
    But it is a completely different design.

    There was intense heat as you know from burning jet fuel and other fuel found in offices. Such as wooden desks, paper and other things.

    I am not clear on the firefighting devices on all 3 of the buildings, but clearly they burned and fell.

    I have yet to read the true study on the last smaller building that fell but read what has been posted here.

    The twin towers had the kind of structure that with such heavy airplanes plus their fuel, could destroy them after impact plus raging fires. We all know the people that perished were doomed by the intensity of the raging fires in the buildings.

    As to what I believe? I do not believe that trucks of high explosives were allowed inside any of the buildings so to bring them down.

    If said explosives would be there, then who did it? It seems likely it would be the terrorists.

    A former FBI senior official was in charge of the security at the towers and he was totally frightened of the terrorists so he would have pulled out all stops to stop said explosives from getting in.


    Most ignore him since he was killed in the fall of the buildings. He raised so much hell at FBI on terrorists he almost was ran off.
     
  10. Shinebox

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    yeah sure thing Bobby ... we're all being duped by the government but you can see through it all ... and you see a flash 1/2 second before impact ...

    all of your 'facts" point to intelligence failures at best ... and as for debunking NIST, you don't even understand the science but just parrot other troofers ... take it to the grave with you Bob ...
     
  11. yasureoktoo

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    But he sure believes the Official government story about Obamas Birth certificate.
     
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    Good lord, get a life, people.
     
  13. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    It is kind of funny isn't it.
     
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    Going through this thread I feel like I'm in a dungeon somewhere.

    Where's the light?
     
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    There is no light,
    You have two people with no life whatsoever, who can spend all day, day after day, month after month, year after year,
    Bobbie claims he was doing it for 14 years.
    No Job, no life outside of mom's basement, collecting entitlements, living off the system, and complaining about it.


    But give them something real, like,
    How come nobody's seen Obamas birth certificate,
    And they slither away.
     
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  16. dave8383

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    Well there you go.
     
  17. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    You're right, you're not clear, you're just repeating what you've been told. There were fires in all 3 buildings but no one has proven that was the primary cause of the total destruction of all 3 buildings in a matter of seconds at free fall and near free fall. Furthermore, this is what the firefighters have to say about the fire in one of the towers before it was destroyed:



    Well then you should read the true study as well as the fraudulent one for perspective:

    First the NIST report.

    http://ws680.nist.gov/publication/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=861610

    And the preliminary study (the final version for peer review should be out before the end of this year):



    And a full analysis:

    https://www.911tap.org/557-news-rel...y-s-interim-report-undercuts-nist-wtc-7-study

    You're speculating without any supporting basis.

    Many were trapped by the damage and the fire, that is true. But the vast majority lost their lives when the twin towers were destroyed. There was a raging fire over 8 stories in the North Tower in 1975 that did not cause a collapse nor was the building ever in danger of collapsing.

    If the buildings did not collapse as a natural consequence of planes, damage and fire (or fire alone in the case of WTC7) then there is only one other possibility no matter what else anyone wants to speculate. And thus far no one has been able to prove these were natural gravitational collapses. NIST didn't even try in the case of the twin towers, only claiming "global collapse ensued" in a footnote. And in the case of WTC7, well read above for yourself.
     
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    All those useless words and still not a single sentence that supports your claim that I "spread lies". The difference between you and yasureoktoo is very little. His posts are 99% trolling and yours I rate at about 90%. Troofer, troofer, troofer, is always your best argument. For a guy who claims to be a "semi-retired engineer", you manage to show the closest you ever came to engineering is that perhaps you made a living shining engineers' shoes or delivering their lunch.
     
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    You're trolling. If you have nothing to discuss on any of these 9/11 issues, why are you posting here?
     
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    I'm trolling? Ha ha.
     
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    Aaawwwww Co-mon Bobbie.

    The questions I post are direct and to the point, no bullsh-t allowed.
    You know, the ones you refuse to answer.


    No Bobbie, it is you who is trolling, however the catch is slim right now, not as good as it was 10 years ago.
    Most of the people just grew up.
     
  22. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    You are not discussing anything that has to do with 9/11, which is what this section of the forum is all about. Read the rules:

    5. TROLLING OR DERAILING A DISCUSSION

    If you don't want to discuss the topic, stay out of the thread. Posts that are, in the judgment of moderators or administrators, intended to disrupt a discussion rather than actually contribute to it will be considered trolling.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?help/terms
     
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    911 was a tragic event that we've all been effected by more deeply I suspect than we know. You're trolling all of us with this nonsense get a life CT crap instead of bringing insight to the effects of the event. That's my opinion and I'll express it, so stay off my back.
     
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    Well said.

    These guys are no better than those Sandy Hook deniers.

    Lots of people suffered from this crap, and these guys make a joke out of it.
     
  25. Bob0627

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    Agree 100%.

    You can express your "opinion" all you want however if you're not discussing 9/11 and all the events surrounding 9/11, you're off topic in this section of the forum and what you're doing is the very definition of rule #5. Everything I try to discuss is on topic (except in this particular case to point out YOUR violation of the rules of the forum) despite your false "opinion". So please stay out of this section of the forum unless and until you're willing to discuss 9/11 or you will be reported.
     
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