What would you do with or for homeless people?

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  1. Vegas giants

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    This statement is true. That program is designed for the chronically homeless. Those who are recently homeless or about to be homeless would need to be cared for thru other programs in the safety net

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    I get what you are saying but for many of the chronically homeless you still would require someone to manage the money for them such as a payee or public guardian or they would just be homeless with money in their pocket
     
  2. danielpalos

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    Assisted living care could be an option even with that form of minimum wage at their disposal.
     
  3. Bow To The Robots

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    I would dress them up as movie characters and let them troll for change on Hollywood Bl.
     
  4. danielpalos

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    are you on the right?
     
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    I would build a homeless community out of shipping containers...similar to these Falcon containers.

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    Institute a jobs training program, counseling, drug and alcohol rehabilitation at the facility...This would all be voluntary, only those that want to be helped would enroll, because there would be strict controls instituted such as curfews, at first with a lessening of the leash with time...trust is earned not automatically given. Part of their wages would be set aside each month since everything is provided for them. This is a nest egg for them when the program is complete...interest on the money however is funneled back into the program. There are a lot of details that would need to be worked out such as rides to and from work...But for a quick off the top of my head, it's a start.
     
  6. Vegas giants

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    A large percentage of the chronically homeless simply can not work. It is not about job training. You are asking a rock to fly
     
  7. jmblt2000

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    You think standing on a corner walking up and down begging for money is not work, especially in areas like Austin TX where it can get hot as hell. They can work, anyone can do data entry work if nothing else...And as I said, the program would be voluntary, so only those that wanted help would get it.
     
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    If it is truly voluntary and housing does not depend on participation in the program then that is the Housing First program
     
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    The right what?
     
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    Offer an area with those tiny yet livable houses. Then make sure each person had their specific needs addressed....access to job training, mental health counseling, drug treatment.
    I know this is already being done in different places. Not sure how much of an impact its making. Plus,there are some people who are not able or willing to follow through with the help offered.
    There are people here living in tents all along I-5. The average rent ( for an apt) in this area is way too high.
     
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    Implication of your question is that a central authority or even worse a single person can solve the problem. The same mindset that leads to ever expanding government offering programs that have shown little evidence of success.
     
  12. Le Chef

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    Well, if you were czar -- all powerful -- as I hypothesized, you could presumably do something about it, but I guess not. We are producing not only homeless people but weak people. But they have lots of participation trophies.
     
  13. danielpalos

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    Would we have as much homelessness, if Persons were not denied and disparaged in equal protection of the law regarding the concept of employment at will, and unemployment compensation that clears our poverty guidelines for Persons who are unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States?
     
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    Not a solution, but a question.
    Are there definitive causes of homelessness, and if there are, can we rectify the root cause of the problem, and then concentrate on the homeless we have?
     
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    A simple poverty of money is one cause of homelessness.
     
  16. Steady Pie

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    The state has no authority to revoke citizenship. Show me the clause.

    Deport them to where? We don't deport criminals.
     
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    Morbidly obese homeless men don't live to be 70.

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    In other words you would do nothing productive.
     
  18. AlphaMale

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    Something like this could work

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPx4bdMp8GU
     
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    Yeah because putting people in metal boxes is so kind. It would be better to create either tiny home or tiny apartments for people.
     
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    Well, that's rather charitable on your part; so far the best solution i've seen.
     
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    That are also ADA compliant if a typical wheelchair won't go around one and can be stored safely inside its likely not going to be legal. I'm shocked no one sued the places with tiny housing units yet over this.
     
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    It has little to do with charity; it is common sense. Incarcerating homeless as vagrants is costly, and chasing them off simply increases the potential spread of disease and disturbance.

    I firmly support a return to rooming houses run by private individuals and not hampered overly with regulation as a cost effective way to provide housing for some. There is no need to throw most people with difficulties into either prison or a treatment facility, except for the few addicts and mentally ill that really want treatment.
     
  23. L_Ron_Paul

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    If a predisposition to indigence is due to genetics as our friends on the right so often claim, why not try to leverage gene therapies to help them? There's nothing written in the laws of nature or physics that large and successful civilizations require a massive underclass, even if all large and successful civs have had them historically.
     
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    I believe the solution is simple and market friendly.
     

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