Again, the question is how would you identify yourself. In the case of a plainclothes officer, he most probably already ID'd himself to the shooter, and would almost certainly have his badge, star, whatever already visible, unless he was a rookie and just plain forgot in a panic situation. If that were the case, the possibility of being hit with friendly fire certainly exists. Unfortunately, in my area, I don't have a high regard for the local deputies, so I'd have to think real hard whether or not I wanted to take a chance on their reaction, even if my ID were fully visible. Enjoy!
Never, never stand and engage. Always seek cover first, or shoot on the move. From behind cover, hopefully it will make you less of a target and buy you time to communicate. I too, would have to be directly at risk to get involved. A badge defeats the tactical advantage of concealed carry.
I like these sort of hypotheticals. I mean, if police can do it, why can't civilians? And does a badge really mean anything? I mean, on a fundamental level? Who's to say the bad guy couldn't dress up as a police officer?
Just imagine that, a plain-clothed civilian pointing a gun at someone wearing a police uniform and telling them to drop their weapon. How might that look to bystanders, some of whom may be carrying themselves? Could potentially really be a messy situation.
I would identify myself by my actions. If I were to use my concealed carry weapon to take down, or take out a violent threat in public. Then I would be talking loudly to everyone around me to explain the situation, to call the police and so on. I would not be waving my handgun around and shooting people at random---always a bad sign. I'd have my weapon out and trained on the subject(s) detained on the ground, if still able to resist. As the felon(s) causing the gunfight would likely be dead if shots were exchanged, my weapon would be secured by the time the police arrived.
I"m going to draw and shoot the piece of crap so fast, and put away my gun so quickly, and leave the area so swiftly/discretely, that there is an acceptably low risk of anyone noticing me at all. I'm not going to be standing around waiting to be identified, by anyone, for any reason or in any way.
i am a proven world class IPSC "combat style' handgun and rifle competitor. What I said is most certainly provable to be quite achievable. In the chaos of such an event, nobody is going to notice my draw, and after I see his head explode, there's no need for me to be standing there with my gun visible. 45 gr segmented bullets, (at 2200 fps) do that to a "sealed container" of liquid, which is what a mammalian cranium is. A draw from the pants pocket is that fast, too. Nobody notices if somebody has their hand in their pocket, so the draw CAN be discretely made in well under one second from that starting position, while going to the kneel, not counting reaction time. Reaction time is not part of the move, since I will be starting first, not reacting to some signal. If the guy is too far for me to reliably make a head shot (because he's probably armored and I because I need to kneel to get the required upward angle to not endanger other people, then I'm not going to draw at all, I'm just going to leave the area. I"m not a cop, I do NOT have to engage the guy at all. Everyone else could be carrying, just like I will be. Everyone else could have put in the time and money and effort that I have, to be able to defend themselves. If they haven't, well, too bad. The victims should not be relying upon others to do what said victims should be doing for themselves.
in your opinion, but I won't be sought after to be punished, just for saving a bunch of people and then not wanting to risk all the bs that comes with having removed some pos from the gene pool. I can prove that I can do what I said and NOBODY has to draw their gun in such a situation. So what I do remains my option. YOu want to force people to think your way,and you don't like it when somebody like me points out that your "problem" need not arise, that's all. everyone's a criminal, dude. your mom's a criminal, for having kissed a boy who was not yet 18.
While I completely understand this logic and sentiment I find it wrong. As a man, an American, and a gun owner it's my opinion that we have an inherent responsibility to do what we can within reason. Taking on that responsibility promotes and preserves our freedoms and society.
yes, WITHIN REASON. and that means MY REASONS, for risking MY LIFE. If I can't make the head shot with relative certainty,and escape the area, it's not within reason for me to risk drawing the gun at all. So your entire scenario has no validity. YOU "think" that standing around with your gun in hand makes sense. I don't.
yeah, and why would I get involved in saving a bunch of strangers, most of whom will happily sue my butt off for "scaring" them" (by saving their lives when I blow off the attacker's head? In fact, I'd be blamed for shots that he fired BEFORE I got involved. We all know this, so why should anyone get involved at all, hmm? I'd take the one shot, if I thought it was feasible, which is 100x what a million others would do. by the way, i'd limit that head shot attempt to at most 5 yds of range, and only try it if the attacker was busy focusing on something other than me. Do you know to open your mouth and exhale sharply as you fire? this reduces the effect on your eardrums(from your blasts). Thus, you are going to flinch less. This aint the firing range, with earmuffs in place.
better yet, if you aint shooting, put the gun away. what's the matter, anyway? scared that you can't draw it fast enough, if you need it again?
