Cool story. And? Cool story. And? That isn't even a complete English sentence. I'm not sure how to respond. Sobo hates Hitler because he believes Hitler wasn't racist enough. He still thinks there could come a point in time where Hitler's methods might be necessary and he still support a government-enforced race-based state. He supports the use of violence (at least in state form) to accomplish his vision of a racially homogenous Germany. He openly admits to all of this. Que?
And can you explain how that isn't fascism, or do you agree that the use of government force to ensure racial hegemony is inherently fascist?
Instead of misinforming people, ask him if he thinks Hitler was not racist enough. I lived there from the fall of 1962 to the end of January 1964. I recall Germany imported workers who worked in electronics primarily because Germany in the West had 100 percent employment and needed other workers. I believe most came from Greece. After the Greeks spent a particular time in Germany they had to return to Greece. German citizenship is harder to get than here in America. The form of what you call racist in Germany dates far back to when it was a collection of hundreds of tribes. Roman Historian Tacitus described many of the groups living in Germany at that time. Germany until the Muslims never got used to hoards invading them illegally. Germany did accommodate some legal Muslims but apparently it is not working as they hoped it would. Merkel catches hell for this too. Sobos never lived under Hitler. He clearly knows about Hitler but until you live under a person like him, he is a book figure rather than a real human to him. Hitler killed himself in 1945.
He's already said so. Please read the thread. Cool story. And? What I call racist? No. The OP calls it racist. He proudly identifies as a racist. Have you seriously not even read one page of the thread? Sobo isn't just against illegal immigration. He wants to cut off non-German migration. Lol, yes, let's all be nicer to Hitler
Friend, after how you talk all the time, to treat me as if you do not understand me truly takes the cake. I am trying to work with Sobos and allow him to express himself. Imagine you had to communicate to him in German and you spoke fluent English daily to the public. He sounds fluent but Germans have their ways to express themselves as we here in America express ourselves. Me coming from socialist CA have my view that would be quite different from a person in Maine or Minnesota. I get why people have misunderstandings. I have visited a lot of the states in America so I am more tolerant to those people than some of them are to me.
These Osties like Sobo are the failures of modern Germany, badly educated and unable to compete with the rest. I used to go to the HQ in Berlin and the Osties were boiling cabbage in the kitchens which was about all they were good for. Now they preach Aryan supremacy when in all truth they are inferior to the Turks, of which there are many working in Germany. The recent immigrants probably contribute more too.
I agree with him. He can use translators trying to give us the idea he is fluent in English. So when one attacks him, his German speaking ears and mind operates in a different plane than here in America. I have spoken to so many people from many nations I know very well that they speak English but in their minds it is them having to translate to us.
He openly identifies as racist. He says Hitler wasn't racist enough. He supports a race-based state where the government enforces racial homogeneity and segregation. He's already expressed these things. You are bending over backwards not to condemn it, which is fine, but playing make-believe that he's just misunderstood is nonsense. Sorry, but if you can condemn the socialism of CA but not the racial authoritarianism Sobo is preaching, then maybe it is time to reassess you values.
let me translate some of that. He is speaking ill of those Germans that grew up under Communism. Were you to see and experience East Germany as I did when it was still Communist, you would get why so many of them lived rather primitive compared to our people. West Germans were far better off and had work. The West German mark was like our .25 cent piece. We could take a dollar and get 4 marks. I took 4 West German marks and got 16 East German Marks. Eating at a restaurant in East Germany was extremely cheap. Even eating a good meal in West Germany for Americas was very low cost. I took my fiancée who grew up under communism to a fine dinner in Berlin and for me the cost was very low. We ate a great meal at the top of the Berlin Hilton Hotel. Americans had it made in Germany compared to many Germans. My fiancée lived close to Tempelhof Airport. Her parents business was a block off Kurfurstendam Strasse, a major street in Berlin. Her English was passable and her parents spoke no English at all. She translated to them for me. My German was not good.
Again, you do not understand him. I know very well why you judge him. We are two Americans. To a German speaking German, who more than likely is forced to use a translating device to communicate, he is easy to get wrong. He hates Hitler. Why can't you accept he hates Hitler. What do you think of our own Native tribes who were abused seriously? Do you think you are loved by all the natives tribes of America? Germany is not America. Time to stop seeing it the way you see one of the States of America. He is struggling here trying to communicate to us. Say you talk to person in Russia? They may seem fluent in English. Some are actually fluent in English. but we have ways of speaking different than those in Germany or Russia. Sobo is in touch daily with German speaking Germans. I wish you tried to communicate in a broken Chinese to a man in China. You might have more appreciation with what Sobos is trying to do.
I can tell by how you talk that you are not very easy to understand and you sure do not understand many Americans at all the way you talk to us. I am not shocked you also have a very hard time talking to a German speaker that lives in Germany.
Let me translate for Sobos. Sobos lives in a city that has German speaking people and he lives his life speaking German to all of them. Since he is 26 yrs old, he has spent much of his life recovering from both Communism and Nazi rule. But for him, he may not recall Communism. He grew up hearing of it. Communism fell before his birth. Do you believe the Communists were great at informing the Germans they ruled over? When you talk to him about race, to him you mean Germans. And where he lives, he does not experience others of other races. He learns from his news what happens when Africans come there or Muslims show up. He may never have seen a Muslim at all. He probably sees some tourists. Tourists don't very often get to chatty with Germans due to the different Languages. How often does an American learn fluent German the way Germans learn the language along with the mores of their people? Why not be tolerant? Democrats allege they are tolerant. Then when they get the chance to talk, the prove they are not tolerant at all. When did you encounter Germans that experienced Hitler? I experienced them due to my time in Germany in the early 1960s. We grew up when ww2 was being fought. I had uncles close to me who fought in Germany. My uncle married a German war bride who came to CA and had to learn English and how we talk here. We often to not talk the way Germans talk. Racism to you more than likely is confined to blacks. To him he sees it as asking him to approve a group of people he does not know and telling him he has to embrace them. Why would he embrace them? What reason can you offer him to live a totally different life than he has today?
There was no branch of the SS called Leibstandarte. The SS had three branches, Allgemeine SS, Waffen SS, and the SS-Totenkopfverbande. The only unit in the SS called Leibstandarte was the 1st SS Panzer Division. You are the one with twisted morals when you are proud of a Nazi.
https://www.google.com/search?q=amn...bwObeAhVyUd8KHRQdDdUQBQgrKAA&biw=1829&bih=925 Amnesty International said no such thing, but I'm betting you get all of your news from an AfD Neo-Nazi blog, so...
I have no trouble understanding what American posters are saying, so long as they use proper English, and I have no problem understanding what Sobo is saying.
If those are the mental gymnastics necessary to pretend he doesn't actually mean what he says, have at it. I'll stick with intellectual honesty.
There's still slavery, but it's not called that anymore. For example, the national debt is a form of slavery in that it represents money spent by us that has to be paid back by our children and grandchildren. How many people care about that? Hell, there are lots who would consider it barbaric to start paying it back themselves, rather than hoisting yet another trillion on our kids backs. There's also taxation which is a form of slavery. Feudal societies were nothing but rulers and slaves with the king owning everything, and then varying degrees of slavery down the line until you got to the peasants who weren't allowed to even leave and had to work in order to supply their feudal lord/master with so many days of work in the fields. We still have taxation, and nobody considers that bad except for libertarians and anarchists.
I am not allowed to say someone is an idiot. So, you think Germany can thrive or even survive without trade? You even throw away a chance at friendship. Have you ever heard of hybrid vigor?
Freedom of speech is the right to not be censored, not the right to not be criticized. It's wrong to judge someone who is literally celebrating migrants being sold into slavery??? That's some pretty hardcore moral relativism right there. They are, but that's not the point here. I'm one of the furthest things from a Democrat on this forum and I'm absolutely sickened by Sobo's ideology. Pretty sure this has nothing to do with political views and everything to do with basic human decency. You really need to read the thread... Defending your country against an invasion is not racism. Sounds like you don't know what that word means any more than the liberals do. There are racists among native americans just like among any group but it's not racism that drove them to defend their land, it's just survival instinct. Surviving onslaughts is not "good racism", it's self defense.
I buy stuff at the local supermarket without letting the owner live in our house. Trade means i give money for a good. Thats it. No relationship involved.
Another one who believes his dumb hollywood movie morals gives him the allowance to order me to distance myself from a family member. You cant imagine how laughable that is. You know what? Im not only damn proud for him, he also is a hero for me. He did stand for his country, did evrything he could for his family. Im proud for that and evrything he did. What do you know to judge? You do know that he was rated T1 and was ordered to serve in that unit. There was no free decission. You know what our party leader calls your entire hollywood narrative? "A birdshit".
Just remember what happened last time the racists and bigots had control of Germany, your leader shot himself in a bunker like a coward and yourwe divided your country up as spoils of war.
