When WAS America great?

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  1. Hey Now

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    When was America NOT great compared to most nations??? Still one of the very few countries in the world were almost anyone can be anything.
     
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    Great = opportunity!
     
  3. Woolley

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    Kind of hard to beat Switzerland...I think the Nordics are pretty damn good. Singapore is excellent, Australia is fantastic along with New Zealand....Bermuda looks pretty cool, hard to beat Luxemborg, Andorra, Liechenstein, Denmark, Iceland hell even Canada is pretty damn nice.
     
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    I know this mythology is around but come on, anybody can be anything in a ton of countries around the world. A former taxi driver is running Russia for Chrisakes.
     
  5. MelshieMaze

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    Is this your first time learning about history at all? Because no black person is reminiscing about the 50s when the Cold War was kicking off, the civil rights movement was getting messy, black people still couldn’t vote despite desegregation, lynchings were still a thing, etc.

    What person wants to go back to those times?
     
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    I’m no Trump supporter but I still 100% believe that we made the best choice in 2016.

    Hillary??? :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol: Yes that name is hilarious
     
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    The ones that like positive progress, intact families, rising wealth and more. Example:

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    It was this rising power that I think frightened a ruling elite that then worked hard to devastate their families, undermine their education and schools, launch a crime wave that undermined civilization in their communities.

    I understand until 1970, any student in any New York City public school could graduate with a license to practice a well paying trade. It wasn't Republicans that put an end to that.

    Was a government conspiracy involved in the assassination of important leaders like MLK and Malcolm X? Did the CIA use drugs to destroy their communities?
     
  8. Hey Now

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    But can they actually make it and then be celebrated;)!
     
  9. JohnHamilton

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    Oh yea? I’ve heard the college professor types tell us for years that the country is racist, misogynist and corrupt. This is the attitude that these “educators” have instilled in their students.
     
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    They lots of slaves, but who cares? It was “perfect.” Got it.
     
  11. JohnHamilton

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    Good! Most of them depend on the U.S. to protect them from the bad guys which free up a lot of money. They also have fairly homogeneous populations. That makes a big difference.

    What surprises me is that you have not moved to one of those “ideal nations.”
     
  12. dairyair

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    What if one is still a white male and not alive in the 50s?

    In reality, being a white make in USA at any point in time was the best time for said white males.
     
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    What slaves did ancient Egypt have?

    Please use real historical references.
     
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    The generation that helped win WW2 is considered the greatest.
     
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    They lots of slaves

    Lmao, English please?

    I'm assuming that you believe in the bible then, given what iThink you're attempting to state.

    So you're a Christian since when?
     
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  16. JohnHamilton

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    I know. The Gods built the pyramids. There were lots of middle workers who pulled those big stones up the sides.

    Also there was the matter of the Jewish people in Moses’ time. I guess they were fleering from the benevolent Ramses II. But it was the “perfect society.”
     
  17. JohnHamilton

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    Yea, on paper I am a Christian. I was raised as one and observe the holidays. I am just not a fan of organized religion.
     
  18. dairyair

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    So, no historical references to ancient Egypt slaves.

    Why mention it?
     
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  19. Esau

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    Tbf the bible is a good historical source. In this context though, it could work, if Hamilton is a bible believer
     
  20. JohnHamilton

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    Yes I know for you the Bible is fiction.
     
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    ok, fair enough.
    What holidays do you observe please?
     
  22. JohnHamilton

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    Christmas and Easter.
     
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    No, it's not a good historical source. It has no time frames given.
    It never mentions a name of any pharoh.

    At best it has names of cities that existed and some exist today. That's about all it's good for in historical terms.
     
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    Christmas is not a Christian holiday. I'll give you a pass since you may not have known that.

    As an orthodox Christian iDo not celebrate pagan holidays, Christmas.

    Do you have a Christmas tree?
     
  25. dairyair

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    They why reference it?
    It may not be fiction, but it's not a good tool at all for historical purposes.

    It's mostly stories that happened at some point in time. Heck, it never even mentions the name of a phaoroh in the bible, so it can't be used to tell when the stories of that pharoh even happened.
     

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