When you go to the store

Gas was $2.48 yesterday. Where did you get your numbers from?

In the 1960s you could buy a brick ranch for 18 to 22,000.

You number Re: credit hours isn't accurate, is it?

 

My folks bought the house I grew up in; a 2 bedroom, 1 bath house with a basement on a third of an acre, for $14K. That was 1960. Their mortgage payment was $280 a month...

 

Yep.. My grandmother bought a new brick ranch for $15,000 in 1960 on a half acre.

It was three bedrooms..

My parents bought a large house in Chatham Township in 1964 for $32,000 It had four bedrooms, 2.5 baths... and it was in a good school district.. Taxes were high.

 

I paid $2.32 at the pump yesterday.

I remember paying $1.89 a gallon in South Carolina three years ago. Felt like it was my birthday!

 

This isn't the chart I was looking for, but it will do for now.

 

The house my folks bought was on Long Island. It was built in 1855. I guess you could say it was a three bedroom, but one of them would've been reeeeeaaaallly tiny. Mom use it as her "sewing room". Years later my Step-Dad added a sunroom and bathroom off the kitchen...

 

I remember gas prices creeping up into the $4.60 range in California. This was probably around 2009 or so...

 

Sounds spectacular to me. Take a look at this just for fun.

 

The problem will be exacerbated if nothing comes up.

We are close to a tipping point where food production and distribution negatively impacted by Climate Change will no longer to able to feed the exponential growth of the human population on the planet.

Insufficient nutrition weakens immune systems enabling infectious diseases to spread. Given our interconnected transportation system a virus can travel around the world in less than 2 days.

So when you say something will come up it does not necessarily have to be beneficial.

 

I can recall paying less than $1 per gallon in the late 1980's. It always felt a little surreal.

 

The $.31 for 1960 and $2.65 for 2019 are the numbers that you posted. Remember? Yikes!!!

Gas, or RBOB as known on Wall Street, is a commodity and can easily fluctuate in prices more then 100% in any given year.

That definitely depended on where you resided.

That was just for comparison, but let's look at those figures in relation to tuition.

1960
$31/credit hour x 18/semester hours x 8 semesters = $4464 for a bachelors in 1960

2019
$265/credit hour x 18/semester hours x 8 semesters = $38,160 for a bachelors in 2019

*books, lab fees, room and board not included.

 

My granddaughter's school is 50K a year.

 

OIC, OK

 

What does that mean? OIC??

 

Do they? Can't we? Hasn't that been the whole idea of civilization since it was invented?



“We should do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian Darwinian theory he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.”

Buckminster Fuller

Really,, I've always heard . " We don't work to live, we live to work", since I was a little kid, and I've always thought, "that's bullshit" the whole time

 

"Oh, I see" I'm sorry; I've been told you aren't supposed to write things out on the Internet for some reason, though I never knew why.

 

LOLOL.. Its OK.

 

This does sound very much like the situation in 1347, when the Black Death decimated a population weakened by famines that had begun in the early 1300's

Or maybe not. We produce food in such an amazing abundance it is hard to see how anything could really reduce it that much. Even the most well-known famines of the past century, those in Ethiopia, were actually caused by problems getting the food to the afflicted areas rather than any lack of food itself. Contributed grain rotted on the docks, was the major complaint.

 

That was why I included the problem of DISTRIBUTION in my post. A mountain of food on the wrong side of an impassable river doesn't do anyone any good if aircraft are grounded and there are no boats or bridges because they have all been washed away in unprecedented floods.

The Climate Change events are getting much larger and doing more infrastructure damage than before. Even a small island like PR had areas that were completely isolated after a single hurricane.

Imagine a massive snowstorm driven by an arctic vortex that covers the midwest in 10' plus of snow over an area of 5 states and lasts for 2 or 3 months. How long would it take to provide food across that area to everyone who needed it even after the storm abated? How much flooding would occur when all of that snow started to melt? How much arable land would be washed away and how much equipment damaged?

This is not unimaginable, this can happen and when it does our technology can only do so much.

 

You make a good point. I was just reading that archaeologist now believe Mesopotamian civilization collapse because of a long, sever winter shamal (sandstorm).

 

Used one last night, was great. Try it.

ETA: First world problems. There's always coding.

 

I really love shopping at Aldis.. The savings are huge You have get used to the brands (which are excellent) and bring your own grocery bags.

Kroger is apparently in trouble and there's speculation that they will be changing their model.

 

with all this ai automation, i think it's high time we remove all humans from our educational system, ie: teachers & proffessors, because they all contaminate the children with their own personal biases.

 

Never heard of Aldis, and haven't seen a Kroger around these parts for a while. Not saying they aren't around, just that I haven't seen any. Here all the Walmart's and HEB's and even Sam's club have self check out. I go for them nearly every time.

To listen to some of these people bemoaning having to scan their own items, jesus it's a wonder they can manage to walk all the way back to their car in the parking lot. What is wrong with people?

 

years back while i was buying lottery tickets at the local stationary, this woman enters frantically, asks for batteries to her cars remote, clerk told her the nearest store is several blocks away, the woman lets out a scream & says "how am i suppose to get there, i cant get in my car!" she whines, cries, full on hysteria... i said, ma'am, did you try the key in the door lock?", with that she suddenly stopped whining & ran out to her car... never saw her again... lol