Where did the wives of Cain and Abel come from?

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  1. Margot2

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    They know because the earth shakes. The third temple was destroy by earthquakes about 300 AD.
     
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    Man tortures and kills vast amounts of people, this is already being done, where is your argument to those doing this now?

    What are you even talking about? At least read on it before making such false claims, all your doing here is leaving yourself open to looking ignorant on the matter. Money is the root of all evil, Jesus never used money. Jesus came to help the faithless, the poor, and the ill. If you don't want to believe that's one thing, but don't make false accusations. Jesus healed the sick (blind, deaf, paralyzed, etc.). Jesus said if He was not sent and did not perform miracles, nobody would believe. And then He said, "blessed are they who have never seen me, yet still believe in me". It seems you have no idea the true message Jesus brought. For Jesus never hurt anybody, either physical or with words. Even Pontius Pilate, the Roman knight had said, "I find no wrong doing with this man". Yet the Pharisees and Roman people, convinced Pilate to give permission for the crucifiction of Jesus Christ. The same Roman people that cheered Jesus on, during His arrival, is the same people that screamed for His death, even with the Roman official (knight) Pilate saying, "I find no wrong doing with this man". So while having the Pharisees and roman people begging Pilate to have Jesus killed, Pilate was the one making the decision, the decision he made was to allow them to kill Jesus. What do you think Pilates' punishment will be, and do you blame Pilates' decision on Jesus?

    Tell me, would like to be crucified (or just killed) for no wrong doing? Are you one of those that would of been screaming for His death?

    For you to say Jesus never gave anyone anything, is absurd. Jesus gives everlasting life (eternity) more valuable than anything in existence. Jesus does not torture anybody, this is chosen all on their own. One is either of Jesus, who is of the Father who sent Him, or against Jesus. It is not Jesus making this decision for them, it is decided all on their own. We have the knowledge of both good and evil, thus our decisions is either of good or evil. One would not even have the knowledge to say, "Jesus or God does not exist", without the knowledge of evil. For this is of satan, the fallen one, the morning light, master of lies, the great deceiver, Appolyon, Abaddon, Lucifer, Belial, antichrist, dragon, beast, the serpent, little horn, son of perdition, murderer, wicked one, the devil. Is this the one you have chosen to side with?
     
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    How is it even possible that you cannot acknowledge what I'm saying. I'll try to make this simple, alleging your in America right now, if an earthquake happened in China right now, how would "YOU" know? A person can only know of earthquakes in diverse places with our technology, otherwise the person only knows of earthquakes that occur in their location, not in diverse places. You see, can you understand now?
     
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    I replied on this post #453, still waiting on your response.
     
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    So if your favorite deity is "I AM THAT I AM" why do you worship the other god called Jesus?
     
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    I don't think Jesus is God, however Jesus is our only savior and only path to our Father which is in heaven. It's like a marriage, once married the man and wife are as one, yet individuals. Jesus said that nobody shall inherit the kingdom, lest they do the will of "my" Father who sent me. Jesus always reefer's to God as His Father. And told us to not call Pharisees, priests, preachers, pope, etc, Father, for there is only one Father in this regard. It is indeed ok to call your dad, "father". Thou shall honor thy father and thy mother. I just figured you would say something so I explained in small detail.

    Jesus is the truth, the way, and the life. He holds the key to both life and death, and there is no way to everlasting life but through Him. Worshipping Jesus is worshipping God. For again they are of one.

    God is not a deity, He is God the Almighty, the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.
     
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    It does indeed..........
     
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    Out of curiosity....what of everyone that existed before "God" decided to write an instruction book?

    Are Adam, Kain, Moses....etc....in Hell? Did "God" make Lilith and then make her a demon for wanting better sex?
     
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    Matthew 3:9 "And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham."

    Ezekiel 36:26 "A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh."



    Have you heard of the 'stone age'?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ion-vs-evolution-the-age-of-the-earth.538070/


    [​IMG]Ġgantija temples in Gozo, Malta, some of the world's oldest free-standing structures


    The Stone Age was a broad prehistoric period during which stone was widely used to make implements with an edge, a point, or a percussion surface. The period lasted roughly 3.4 million years[1] and ended between 8700 BCE and 2000 BCE with the advent of metalworking.[citation needed]

    Stone Age artifacts include tools used by modern humans and by their predecessor species in the genus Homo, and possibly by the earlier partly contemporaneous genera Australopithecus and Paranthropus. Bone tools were used during this period as well but are rarely preserved in the archaeological record. The Stone Age is further subdivided by the types of stone tools in use.

    The Stone Age is the first period in the three-age system of archaeology, which divides human technological prehistory into three periods:


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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Age



    What do you think? That these civilizations had human populations in the millions or hundreds of thousands? Probably not.


    It's the same as the parable of the wheat and the tares. The wheat are children of Adam and the tares are children of Stone.


    From Adam's children only a few were left. Noah, his sons and their wives. From these came the repopulation of the World. But that does not mean that God did not create out of 'stone' again..... But it's for those who want to always know but never do that has many asking God to separate the wheat from the stones. Asking God to relocate the stones to another place or relocate the wheat to another place. Because for them to live together is like the grinding of the mill the wheat.

    What good is wheat if ground not for bread for the others? And what good is it for mankind to be as wheat for other mankind if and when Christ Jesus paid the last payment for mankind?

    Psalm 44:22 "Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter."

    Both wheat and sheep are for food for manies stomachs. All their lives, they eat and purge, eat and purge but never growing out of their wicked ways.


    Isaiah 59:1 "Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:"


    Life does not require wheat to be alive in order for God to save.
     
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    I guess I could point to all that exists in the known universe as evidence.

    The bible doesnt give an age to the earth. There are 2 lineages (of Joseph and Mary) which include only important figures, and some have tried to use that to calculate the age of creation, which is folly... they dont even match eachother in years. There are all sorts of transliteration issues as well concerning time. The ancient hebrew alphabet was also its numeric system... a lot is wrong. Yes, anyone who takes the bible completely literally is a small minded fool. Including its critics.
     
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    I guess you could....and I could point out that Zeus created it all. he does after all pre-date any Hebrew number system and made lightning.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim

    Well the Bible has giants in it so yes these were giants and also men of power the children of demons and mortal women pre-deluge and after. Where do you think all these 'human ancestors' came from demon DNA in the gene pool mutating most of the human race until Noah and his family remained pure. It also clearly with sin devastated our ability to use science to date things and this rippled throughout creation forcing God to destroy almost all life. Save those who lived in water the water gods and mythical creatures are those ancient Nephilim God couldn't finish off in the Deluge but is suppressing.
     
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    Why would you need to know? in ancient times your "world" was rather small and limited by how far you could walk in a couple of days.
     
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    Jesus came to show the way. Moses provided the law before Him.
    The argument would be that God recognizes there are other gods, but He is the alpha and the omega.
     
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    So YOU say...I say otherwise and I am right while you are wrong. Besides my God is bigger than your God and was THE Alpha before being alpha was cool.
     
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    There is ZERO evidence for Moses, but the story closely resembles a much older tale of the Egyptian Sinuhe.

    Moses wife Zipporah is supposedly the ancestor of the Druze who are related to the Askhenazi by DNA. Makes me wonder about the forced conversion of the Edomites.
     
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    Zeus is dead... so... yer wrong.
     
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    Zeus cannot die and is visible to us all physically every time we get thunderstorms. Thus he proves his existence for all to see...I have provided absolute irrefutable evidence …..debate over.
     
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    You are kidding, right?

    The myth that predates Muhammed is that Grandmother Eve was 90 feet tall and is buried in Jeddah.
     
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    A lot of religious, political and pseudo-historical fiction and embellishment, but with plenty of nuggets of historical reality and truth included, is about how I would sum it all up, and the degree of this varies from one scroll to the next.
     
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    This babe has not been back in over 7 years !!
     
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    You are copy catting one of San Tomas Aquinas' "proofs of God".

    You should read more philosophy, if that's the only thing that you know about it.
     
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    … An old dead thread by a dumbazz babe that quit the forum almost a decade ago.

    Why resurrect this crap ??
     
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    Of course there are a lot gods. Anyone who exalts himself in his own mind, has made himself a god. Isn't this what Lucifer did, and the angels who followed him?

    Anyway the angels who followed Lucifer are known as demons, and they do exist and they do enter people's minds. Many refer to them as 'spiritual' guides, but they are malevolent entities. They might give people what they want temporarily, but the end will be tragic, it always is - and especially in places where the occult is prevalent.
     
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    Do you actually believe in demons?
     

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