Which Christian denominations have we got here?

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  1. Catholic

    5 vote(s)
    11.6%
  2. Anglican

    2 vote(s)
    4.7%
  3. Baptist

    5 vote(s)
    11.6%
  4. Lutheran

    4 vote(s)
    9.3%
  5. Calvinist

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Methodist

    3 vote(s)
    7.0%
  7. Pentecostal

    1 vote(s)
    2.3%
  8. Eastern Orthodox

    3 vote(s)
    7.0%
  9. Oriental Orthodox

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Non-Trinitarian

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. a member of other Christian denominations

    8 vote(s)
    18.6%
  12. a member of other religions

    4 vote(s)
    9.3%
  13. no religion

    15 vote(s)
    34.9%
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  1. Lindis

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    As of now, there are even FOUR!
    Brave people!
    I have just seen it!
     
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    Really....do you think the Catholic faith is demonized to that extent on this forum? If so, the first thing that comes to my mind to generate that thought is ignorance.
     
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    The real apostles have never been identified, so your root is non-existent.

    Unless you think Peter, Paul, James and Mary are Jewish names.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Yes, I do think so indeed.
    Not in this forum specially, but in the world if forums generally.
    And I am speaking from experience.
    I have been in the world of the forums since summer 2002.
     
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    I seldom see Catholics.

    I see many Catholics calling themselves Christian, in the sense that most do not bother naming their what, one in 3,000 denominations?

    I have seen the numbers of decent apologists for religion drop to almost 0 though.

    Not surprising with religions shrinking.

    I like that atheists are getting more vocal, as they have stats showing how much better their systems are for peace, law abidance and harmony.

    I like it here to some extent but I would also like one quality site.

    The pros are not debating enough, and the lay are remaining dumb.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Catholics are often the aim of attacks - aren't they?
     
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    Why? Are you doxxing them?
     
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    Not me ...
     
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    If not you, then who? Why else would they not dare to say so on your thread?
     
  10. Lindis

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    Ask somebody else
     
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    You know that your question is both stupid and insulting?

    a) It is stupid. You should know that this poll is anonymous and nobody can see how anybody clicked.
    b) But even if one could see how somebody has clicked, I would never "doxx" anybody.
     
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    Maybe Catholics are just too lazy or too cowardly to out themselves as Catholics.
    Or both.
    I don't know.
     
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    RE: Which Christian denominations have we got here?
    SUBTOPIC: Confrontation
    ※→. Greatest I am, Lindis, et al,

    PREFACE: Catholics are generally NOT "people who offer arguments in support of Catholicism." These types of arguments seldom become productive on an outcome. Those that believed one, do not convert to the side of the opponent. The agnostic will remain agnostics and those that acknowledge they have no faith.

    (COMMENT)

    Starting Point: I would like to offer this entry taken from the Catholic Encyclopedia:

    CHRISTIAN (THE TERM)
    The term ‘‘Christian’’ appears but three times in the New Testament. According to Acts 11.26, ‘‘it was in Antioch that the disciples were first called ‘Christians.’’’ In Acts 26.28 King Agrippa interrupts St. Paul’s discourse with the ironic remark: ‘‘In a short while thou wouldst persuade me to become a Christian.’’ And St. Peter, in 1 Pt 4.16, exhorts that if ‘‘one suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God under this name.’’
    SOURCE: New Catholic encyclopedia.—2nd ed. Book 3 Can-Col • Catholic University of America Press pg 529


    While I am not a practicing Catholic (not for more than 50 years), when I was in graduate school, I had the research need to study a few aspects. Religion, any one of the traditional western religions, has a complex relationship with their particular Supreme Being. This is especially true of the Abrahamic Religions.
    ________________________________________________________________________________________________________
    Bibliography: E. J. BICKERMAN, ‘‘The Name of Christians,’’ Harvard Theological Review 42 (Cambridge, MA 1949) 109–124.
    C. SPICQ, ‘‘Ce que signifie le titre de chrétien,’’ Studia Theologica 15 (1961) 68–78. G. RICCIOTTI, The Act of the Apostles, tr. L. E.
    BYRNE (Milwaukee 1958) 179–180, 375. Encyclopedic Dictionary of the Bible, translated and adapted by L. HARTMAN (New York,
    1963) 360–361.


    (COMMENT)

    Catholics are a cross-section of society. They are not particularly evil; but nor are they particularly righteous in their religious view. I cannot imagine where anyone would get the idea that Catholics are not Christians.

    There are many branches of Christianity.


    (COMMENT)

    WOW! It is very easy to say that. But then, that tells us something about you and your Christian beliefs and approach to Christianity.

    Remember, that all the Abrahamic Religions and splitter groups believe in the supernatural. Which and that doorway opens many passages and alternatives.

    [​IMG] Most Respectfully,
    R
     
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    That is what I keep saying.
    In contrast to those evangelical fundamentalists, who think that there is only one branch of Christianity: themselves
     
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    Aha.
    And you probably mean: Something very very baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!
    I do not like such comments that appear to be "wise" when in reality they are just full of poison.

    And you say "us" - do you pretend to have the right to speak for the whole forum?
    I could comment on that - but I won't.
     
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    RE: Which Christian denominations have we got here?
    SUBTOPIC: Confrontation
    ※→. Greatest I am, Lindis, et al,

    PREFACE: Sometimes I speak without thinking, in a personal knee-jerk reaction mode.

    (COMMENT)

    As I re-read my commentary this morning, I see and recognize that or which you speak. I take note of my blunder and acknowledge my mistake.

    Q: Do "I" have the right to speak for the whole forum? Heavens No. In the last 10 years, I have made fewer "replies" than you have in one year. So, as I brush off the rust, I realize how careful I must be in making these fragile responses.

    Am I wise? I do not know yet what wisdom is. But whatever it is. I apparently do not have it.

    (PERSONAL APOLOGY)

    There is a fallacy in philosophy known as ad hominem. It is, in effect, applying a less than positive response in a commentary. In this case, I was guilty of forwarding the comment in a personal direction rather than a generalized direction.

    I should never apply a negative reply to the person. The reply should always be relative to the information content.

    And for this blunder, I sincerely apologize. You were absolutely right to call me out. Well done!

    [​IMG]
    Most Respectfully,
    R
     
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    Pretty sure you can't really be wise without saying/thinking exactly what you've just said. I think you've summed up Socrates in four sentences.
     
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    Now:

    4 x Catholic
    4 x Baptist
    4 x Lutheran

    Maybe even more
    than four :)
     
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    I just noticed that No Religion is in first place. That would mean that the members who frequent this part of the forum are either searching for answers or here to destroy the faith of the faithful.
    So I ask the 4 Catholics, are you ready to defend every unique aspect of your denomination against all attacks from within and outside of Christendom?
     
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    RE: Which Christian denominations have we got here?
    SUBTOPIC: Confrontation
    ※→ Phil, et al,
    (COMMENT)

    Q: "Christendom?"
    A: Christendom is NOT a place. It is an invisible concept establishing a web of christian values.

    Many scholars will tell you that the idea that there is a necessity for: "Protector and Defender of the Christian Faith" (Introduced by Pope Julius II • 1507) went from being the "spiritual mission of the Church" → to become militarized.
    In terms of Catholicism, no one need to be a protector or defender of the faith; but, to move forward in the performing the mission of the Church.

    Paradigms of Mission. A missionary reading of the New Testament enables us to discern several mission theologies. The Gospel of Matthew reaches its climax with the ‘‘great commission’’ to make disciples of all nations (Mt. 28:18–20). Proclamation and disciple-making have been a traditional emphasis in missionary evangelization. The Johannine stress on the ‘‘great commandment’’ of universal love is, however, more fundamental, and coincides with a modern emphasis on dialogue and the mission Dei, God’s initiative of love. In Luke-Acts evangelization is centered on forgiveness and solidarity—the preaching of the Good News to the poor, another contemporary concern, while the Pauline writings envisage the eschatological community as the goal of mission.
    SOURCE: Book #9 New Catholic encyclopedia.—2nd ed.p. cm. pg 676-677
    Includes bibliographical references and indexes.
    ISBN 0-7876-4004-2
    Catholic Church—Encyclopedias. I. Catholic University of America.
    [/quote]
    It is not the role of the congregation to form militant movements in the name of the Church, but to perform:​

    ◈ The first missionary task, bearing Christian witness,​

    ◈ The second missionary task, according to the decree, is to preach the Gospel and gather God’s people,

    ◈ The third missionary task is forming the Christian community.
    The Church is not so much a physical structure, but the extension of warmth radiating from the source. If it was necessary for the church to have a Temple of significance meaning in the, then the Omnipotent Power would simply make it happen. In the Church, it not so much that the ground of which contains the remains to he who is the "Rock of the Church," but rather holy ground wherever the congregation presents themselves to receive the "word" and perform those actions that represent the Power of God.


    Just My Coin in the Hat,
    [​IMG]
    Most Respectfully,
    R
     
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    I'm not sure what that means.
    This is one of the lonelier categories in the forum. That's why it includes philosophy (to draw those with No Religion). There are few philosophy threads so it doesn't draw many and apparently the philosophers don't have much to argue about with each other.
    Look at the OPS on just the first page here. They are so unusual there is little to say. Look at what is said and you usually find unbelievers attacking all faith with comments minimally relevant to the OP.
    A devout Catholic could only contribute a declaration from a Pope on the subject. That would influence no one outside the faith.
     
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    RE: Which Christian denominations have we got here?
    SUBTOPIC: Philosophy
    ※→ Phil, et al,
    I try to stay on target with the question (or statement) that has been asked. That is why I repeat the specific question to which I am responding.

    Often, I find that what I think I am responding to, was not the intention of the question - or the nature of the statement. It appears that I jumped the tracks again.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------​
    I thought the intention was a matter of defense - as in the intention of the "Crusades" (militarization of the faithful). Obviously, I was quite wrong.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------​
    So, I'll just back away - before I look even more foolish.
    [​IMG]
    Most Respectfully,
    R
     
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    No - of course not.
     
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    What is your religion, if any?
     
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    And I would see it this way: Members who come here are simply interested in the topic and like to talk about it. :)
     

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