White House brutally mocked as Trump invites a ‘troupe of bald clones’ to briefly jabber about walls

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  1. US Conservative

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    Also wrong. But hey, the lefty spin machine runs 24/7 right?
     
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    Cherry picking is still cherry picking.....it's tough when peeps selectively pick a grape and claim that they have a bushel of grapes or more.

    From my link:
    "Trump supporters and others gleefully proclaimed the pope a hypocrite because the Vatican itself is completely surrounded by a big wall.

    Except that it’s not."
    https://cruxnow.com/church/2016/02/19/no-internet-the-vatican-is-not-a-walled-city/

    Please don't mischaracterize links that members post in a thread, thanks.
     
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    Its a walled city, also protected by armed guard.

    Your semantics don't change that.

    Its like the fact that Obama lives behind a walled home under armed guard...and lefties saying well its actually a fence.

    Its weak sauce.
     
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    My post totally debunks this and your claim.....sorry it's NOT a walled city. Keep trying to spread this falsehood though.
     
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    Well, then you agree that trying to associate the people in that presser with skinheads was wrong.
     
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    No it does not.

    Do large walls surround most of the Vatican? Yes.

    Is it under armed guard? Yes.
     
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    This poll is nonsense and you should recognize that.
     
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    Large walls do surround most of the Vatican and have been there for centuries. They do not surround the entire Vatican just as the intended wall, or fence if you prefer, would not cover the entire southern border.
     
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    They are.

    California has one of the lowest average IQ's.

    My county has a 50% functional illiteracy rate.

    Half of the adults here can't read at a 5th grade level.

    Never see it discussed. That would be mean.
     
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    Yes, my link totally buries the fake news that the Vatican is walled. Guards are just a needed distraction from the fact that the Vatican is no longer walled but a Trump supporter myth. Read my link again.
     
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    Not most, some of the Vatican and that's from centuries ago when they served a purpose and they are no longer relevant today.
     
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    I said they were built centuries ago and if you look at photos you'll see where it is 'most'.
     
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    Yes, it could be mean (despite them often being rude) but it is becoming a serious problem. We can see countless Internet videos where older students don't know who won the Civil war, or can't even point out one country on a world map. Passing grades and diplomas are now as valuable as participation awards. We're entering a world where feelings are facts and opinion is knowledge.
     
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    From your own link... "Large walls do surround most of the Vatican."

    The Swiss guard has been there for centuries with the specific task of protecting the Pope.

    They are armed with the latest and greatest weaponry.

    Not unlike Obama's wall and guards.
     
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    Its worried me for some time.

    Even getting food at the drive through-they can't handle over 2 items ordered, and can't figure out change if its not what the register says.

    But they are oh so entitled. They think they are geniuses.

    Take a look at my back and forth with "hadrians hammer" in this thread.

    He's on his own script.
     
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    Nah, you have mischaracterizing "most" and the walls were centuries old tech no longer used or needed. It's 2019, we have drones, AI and computers.
     
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    I think those people in the presser were wrong to make the association such an easy one to make.
     
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    Like I said.

    Pelosi is more popular than trump for the first time in his presidency.
     
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    Nonsense, from my link:
    "In fact, Vatican City is wide open to anyone who wants to stroll down the Via della Conciliazione, located in Italy, and into St. Peter’s Square. The only thing that may slow you down are metal detectors.

    In the square, you’ll be surrounded by two hemicycles of a four-row Bernini colonnade, open to the adjacent streets, designed to symbolically welcome you into the arms of Holy Mother Church.

    Here’s what it really looks like from the street, with St. Peter’s Basilica straight ahead:

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    And here’s the opposite view, from the basilica in Vatican City across the square out to the street, which is in Italy:

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    Not quite the forbidding fortress some are portraying.

    By Thursday night, Trump had softened his tone, saying during a CNN town hall that he likes the pope and what he represents. “I don’t think this is a fight,” Trump said. “I think he said something much softer than was originally reported by the media.”

    But he repeated the trope about the Vatican’s walls: “… he’s got an awfully big wall at the Vatican, I will tell you.”

    He’s partly right: Large walls do surround most of the Vatican. They’re a medieval anachronism: Pope Leo IV built some of them in the 9th century to keep Church property safe from invading troops, while others are a bit newer, built in the 16th century as a sort of political statement about the power of the papacy.

    “The walls are a fortification, there is no question, but they were a fortification built at a time when armed invasions by barbarians and other forces were happening,” Diane Apostolos-Cappadona, a Catholic studies professor at Georgetown, told The New York Times. “And that is not the same thing we are talking about with a wall between the US and Mexico.”

    Vatican City is a sovereign state, the smallest internationally recognized independent state in the world by both area (110 acres) and population (about 1,000).

    To gain access to St. Peter’s Basilica as well as the Vatican Museums - which includes the Sistine Chapel - requires waiting in a long security line and going through a metal detector.

    Access to other parts of the Vatican - including the gardens, the Vatican Bank, and Casa Santa Marta, where Pope Francis lives - is a bit more difficult. It requires having the proper credentials, such as a press pass or an academic affiliation, and a short conversation with a member of the Swiss Guard, which protects most entrances.

    Unlike the walls, the Guard are not anachronisms. They carry guns, and their protection is supplemented with assistance from Italian police. But they are a throwback to a time when the pope really needed protection, and it stopped his enemies from saying, “You and what army?” when facing a challenge from the Holy See."
     
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    How can you mischaracterize a word like "most"? Its meaning should be very clear to everyone. What do you think it means?

    As mentioned twice already I said the walls were centuries old. Yes, there is always new technology.
     
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    And, like your link said, "A Gallup poll out this week finds that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has a favorable rating of 38%"

    "The same poll also showed that President Donald Trump's favorable rating is 40%"

    You should debate with the source of your link.
     
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