Go read the links I posted. Educate yourself, and then we can have an intelligent discussion. Until you have educated yourself, this is a waste of my time....
No. Just simply no. You are expecting us to prove your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) point by reading approximately 50 pages of cherry picked excrement without page numbers as a guiding star? Me thinks not. I'll thumb through and read up to 5 pages with no guide, but this is coated in jackassery. On a side note. If economics is the root cause of this, why does rape and murder not elevate their economical situation? Shouldn't they have better finances by committing crimes of this sort? Crime is related to but not caused by economics, correlation is not causation. Were that the case, wealthy people wouldn't commit crimes, particularly violent crimes. Rebuttal? Or are you going to pull more Matrix acrobatics?
What a joke. Hey, see where the Mod's changed your thread title, as it was so full of liberal crappola ? If you cannot honestly debate the failure of black culture and liberalism, which is strongly supported by facts you cannot change, than rather than start such a head-up-ass thread next time, just be quiet ! At least you won't look so damn silly ! Grok and I and others posted hard facts, and conclusions, with links. You posted "white pig" stupidity. This is not confusion over grey areas.
Like the other poster said, we aren't digging through your dumpster trying to find a chicken bone. As I and other illustrate over and over, the protocol is to go and paste the relevent paragraph or two, and then include a link if we choose to read more. Otherwise, you are just as another keyboard liberal with no foundation, just poorly based emotion. And I don't give two (*)(*)(*)(*)s about your feelings.
Given that I prowl Stormfront on a quasi regular basis I feel compelled to tell you something...they get most of their info from the FBI, DoJ, and other law enforcement agencies. So are you really upset at them or the "racist" FBI?
I'm blaming the criminals ON THE CULTURE NOT THE RACE...it really isn't that hard to follow. The crime is the fault of the criminals, the criminals are the fault of personal choices born from the culture and other factors. Jesus...it really isn't that hard to follow. Crime done, criminal at fault, criminal = bad. Why is criminal criminal? Personal choices plus circumstance, plus etc...many things really. Why are there a disproportionate number of black criminals than any other race? because a popular facet of black CULTURE glorifies crime and criminality. NOT because they're black, but because popular black culture is a poison to the country and especially Black Americans. Now PLEASE show me anywhere where I excuse the criminals for their crimes EVER?
I said the culture of many black Americans was a major cause...not just poverty...do pay attention. You wish to blame simply being black as a major cause in being a criminal...that is simply erroneous. Why am I not in jail or stomping people's heads in or any of those? Why are none of my black friends or family members? Why are the only criminals I personally know NOT black despite me knowing many many black people even from urban centers? Shouldn't we be genetically inclined to go kill someone? or is it possible that I, as a black person, do not involve myself in or surround myself with people who have been swallowed by this "hip-hop" culture poison or are at least wise enough to know entertainment is not reality?
For the black haters here... Explain to me, logically, how I, a black man who has no record, has no illegitimate children (no children), own my own business, pay my taxes, am well read and educated, and am rather pacifistic...how am I at fault because a minority of a minority, however disproportionately high, is committing many crimes, both violent and non-violent. Why am I a bad guy because of them yet none of you are to blame for Adam Lanza?
Many of us have not called you anything ! And I salute you for the honesty of a few of your last posts. While you may not be personally involved, the fact remains that black society congregates around supporting its own foolish practices, in the face of demonstrable failure, rather than admit it is the main problem unto each other. No other culture in this country displays such overwhelming stupidity, where so few amongst it will admit, much less strive to correct, its massive inherent failures. I do wish you continued success with not getting trapped in the morass..
The culture itself protects itself...I am not part of that culture, I have nothing nor do I want anything to do with them. But beyond that though there is still a disproportionately high incarceration rate for blacks for crimes that are the same or even less than our white counterparts...but I'm willing to accept that there are other mitigating factors in some of the instances. Perhaps a powerful relative or even better courtroom demeanor. The black community does not rush out to protect a black flash mob, but they will, logically, protect the right of their children to not be harassed when walking down the street or to walk home from the store wearing a hoodie without being followed...no, not Trayvon, I've been followed myself many times in high school for simply walking home in the cold. Edit: You are calling me whatever you call them by refusing to apply the same rationale that allows you to see Adam Lanza as a monster but not blame White society for it , when black people commit a crime. I see criminals when I read about criminals. I cheer when they are arrested, I fear them TOO. Why am I "one of them"? Why am I even grouped with them? Why am I not me and they them? Adam Lanza isn't you! Dylan Klebold isn't you! Random white criminal isn't you! Nor do I ever think to group them in with you. So why is generic black gangster/criminal/rapist/murderer/ignorant bastard/etc grouped in with me?
I really don't understand how to reply to the insane idiocy exhibited in this post.... Yes, some rich people do commit crime. Many poor people do not. Therefore proof that poverty doesn't cause crime!! The argument is not, and never has been, that poverty induces an irresistible urge to commit crime. The argument is that poverty increases the prevalence of crime. Something which can only be denied by very stupid people. You know, like 99% of the conservative posters at this forum!! What you are saying is equivalent to saying "well, if smoking causes cancer, why do non-smokers get cancer? I also know a guy who smoked who never got cancer, therefore smoking obviously doesn't cause cancer." It is so stupid, that I don't know how I engage with the ideas you are putting forward.
Johnsmite- How would you go about changing the culture of crime then? We know that having illegitimate offspring, drugs, and sense of entitlement does damage to the family and thus society. What solution would you propose? I have my own pet theories which I think would certainly work. But I am curious as to your mindset on the issue. Because obviously the left wing outreach has failed abysmally, and you people suffer from it, as do mine.
Not a single conservative in this thread has posted a link to any facts. Grok did reference one statistic devoid of any context, and that is the extent of it!! I posted links to a number of studies done, and of course they were dismissed, because dismissing reality in favor of irrational dogma is what the American right does. It is impossible for a person with any modicum of intelligence to deny the connection between poverty and criminality. As Thomas Paine said "arguing with a man who has renounced the use of his reason, is like giving medicine to the dead." Arguing with people who deny the undeniable connection between poverty and criminality is like giving medicine to the dead.
I know reading is difficult for many people on the right. Would you like me to present the relevant facts of the study in crayon? Maybe I can turn it into a 10 second song and dance, and then the right wingers here would have the attention span to get through. I keep forgetting that studies, facts, critical thinking, reading, and all those other silly things are for leftist commies!! And the right refuses to be taken in by those commie tricks!!
Hahahahaaha. I love that the right at this forum has descended so far that they are all on the same page with the storm-fronters.
Than why bring it up? It is only a factor after all. Ding ding ding! We have a winner Johnny! No (*)(*)(*)(*) Sherlock. Why do you only lens in on economics then? Why not broken homes and moral decay of the demographic in question? Doesn't jive with the agenda? You must be high as a kite if you think I am a conservative. What a dreadful place to be. Given the caliber of individual you are, it is unlikely you ever will. It is amazing. You manage to evade every question, refutation, and point of common sense. And you have the gall to ask me questions? Yet another reason why I dismiss and equate your type of people as peasantry - they must be governed by a higher intelligence in order to achieve anything.
http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/news/elderly-man-raped-socorro/nFT9K/ Four black men sought in what police call a hate crime So four men raped a old man. Does not get ratings! Add hate crime and color to it and money is made!
That's cute - however violence and crime are not a problem in such a large percentage of the white community as they are in the black community, that's why it's significant when a black person commits a crime, it draws attention to a significant problem with black culture that the left wants to overlook.
That culture is a liberal construct that keeps blacks down! Look at all the black people who have turned their backs on it! They don't live in the inner city and they vote like the rest of America... Pretty much independently. They may vote democrat and they may vote republican but they don't vote party only. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Black-Americans-Against-Barack-Obama/115743078468163 http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/1...ck-chicago-protesters-marching-against-obama/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/17/blacks-should-vote-gods-way-against-obama/ The MSM is not going to cover this either.
I think we should imprison the country of Austria while were at it because of that guy who kept his family in the basement.
Here's a local story of a thirteen year old girl who was raped, beaten and murdered. The accused in a 32 year old fellow. The little girl's name was Genelle Renee Conway-Allen. The accused murder/rapist's name is Anthony Lamar Jones. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/09/arrest-made-in-slaying-of_0_n_2652513.html
