Who are Russia's allies?

Vlad Ivx · Mar 21, 2014

I was just wondering... If a war did break out, who are Russia's allies, that Russia can rely on? Who is expected to enter the world war in support of Russia? Would there be anyone keen to help Putin defeat NATO apart from Belarus and Bashaar al Assad? If war does start, who is left out there standing by Putin? :321:

Cdnpoli · Mar 21, 2014

If war broke out it would be nuclear and that will be avoided at all costs therefore there will be no war. Just theatre.

Vlad Ivx · Mar 21, 2014

Cdnpoli said: ↑

If war broke out it would be nuclear and that will be avoided at all costs therefore there will be no war. Just theatre.
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In case of war Putin is facing the risk of having to nuke regions of his own country. There are too many minorities in Russia and some do not share the enthusiasm of central leaders in peace activities, let alone in dying for them in war. Some minorities would see war as an opportunity to rebel and sabotage him. Some might behave just like Chechnya and Dagestan.

This means he might have to also nuke some of his own people (not that he would have a problem with it) but radiation would reach the leaders in Moscow too as well as vital regions of the country. Therefore I think you're right... the web the world is made of is too complicated, too interconnected. Surgical precision moves are no longer possible. Now you can't intervene on the the small scale without affecting the large picture in that same manner.

MaxxMurxx · Mar 21, 2014

Did anybody nuke the USA for invading Iraq and Afghanistan? Why should anybody nuke Russia for invading the Krim? All this hypocritical pseudo outrage of Western politicians is pure show. They do it ten times a day. About sexism, anti semitism, racism, anti feminism, anti multiculturalism, revisionism, conservatism and non vegetarianism. Where I live these people are called "the professionally affecteds". They will call for a boycot of Russian caviar and Crimean champaign. But only for the others.

Vlad Ivx · Mar 22, 2014

MaxxMurxx said: ↑

Why should anybody nuke Russia for invading the Krim? All this hypocritical pseudo outrage of Western politicians is pure show.
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Who ever said such things like ''Russia should be nuked''? Nobody did. I didn't either.

william walker · Mar 22, 2014

Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Central Asian countries, China.

Vlad Ivx · Mar 22, 2014

william walker said: ↑

Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Central Asian countries, China.
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I'm not sure about Iran. China will definitely not help Putin in a war against NATO. What Central Asian countries do you have in mind? Pls get specific, explain.

william walker · Mar 22, 2014

Vlad Ivx said: ↑

I'm not sure about Iran. China will definitely not help Putin in a war against NATO. What Central Asian countries do you have in mind? Pls get specific, explain.
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So Iran wants NATO to defeat Russia? So China wants NATO to defeat Russia? So Kazakhstan wants NATO to defeat Russia? It is against all these countries interests for the Russians to be weak and NATO powerful, so they would support Russia in what ever way they could without going to war with NATO. The only military alliance Russia would get is Belarus.

EvilAztec · Mar 22, 2014

william walker said: ↑

So Iran wants NATO to defeat Russia? So China wants NATO to defeat Russia? So Kazakhstan wants NATO to defeat Russia? It is against all these countries interests for the Russians to be weak and NATO powerful, so they would support Russia in what ever way they could without going to war with NATO. The only military alliance Russia would get is Belarus.
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The are all, that you have written about, are allies of the Russia. Even more,the civilians of USA alliest Russia too.

mutmekep · Mar 22, 2014

Shanghai Pact

litwin · Mar 22, 2014

Vlad Ivx said: ↑

I was just wondering... If a war did break out, who are Russia's allies, that Russia can rely on? Who is expected to enter the world war in support of Russia? Would there be anyone keen to help Putin defeat NATO apart from Belarus and Bashaar al Assad? If war does start, who is left out there standing by Putin? :321:
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why do you think that Luszenka will actually fight on Putins side?
who al Assad can help? or it was a joke?

There is a bitter irony at the heart of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s annexation of Crimea. Putin’s short-term victory is already coming at the expense of his most cherished long-term strategy -- the creation of a Eurasian Union, a trade union linking Russia and its closest neighbors. In other words, as the invasion expands Russian territory, it will diminish Russian influence in the very places he’d like to increase it. One need only look to Belarus, which is already beginning to hedge against its alliance with Moscow, to see why.

Fanciful as it might sound, the Eurasian Union was never idle talk for Putin. It was meant to serve as a genuine alternative to the West for the countries bordering Russia, including those on Europe’s eastern frontier. For now, only Belarus and Kazakhstan have volunteered to be part of the formal January 2015 launch. But Putin has been closely eyeing other countries in the region, particularly those that have been targeted by the EU’s Eastern Partnership program, which was designed to foster closer ties between the EU and Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Moldova, Georgia, and Ukraine.

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has exposed the strategic ambiguity of Putin’s project. Russia liked to emphasize that the Eurasian Union would serve as an equal partnership among its member states and a vehicle for each to better pursue its political and economic interests. But Moscow’s interests suddenly seem much more expansive than they did just a few months ago. Putin has justified his Crimean gambit with a vast but vaguely defined “responsibility to protect” doctrine. No one knows whether Putin now intends to back up the doctrine with military force, or even whom he aims to protect: ethnic Russians, Russian speakers, or any people at all that Russia thinks might need help.

Russia’s partners are understandably spooked. Early in the Ukraine crisis, when pro-Western protesters were camping out in Kiev, Aleksandr Lukashenko, Belarus’ president, seemed happy to see Russia encourage the Ukrainian regime to crack down. Like Putin, he had no desire to see Ukraine’s fellow Slavs in Russia or Belarus copying the slogans and tactics of the Ukrainian protestors. (Lukashenko is still scarred by the demonstrations that followed the controversial 2010 elections, in which he won a fourth term in office.) But Russia’s military intervention in Crimea was a very different matter. Lukashenko pointedly refused to send observers to Crimea’s March 15 referendum. He has also defied Moscow by saying that he will work with the new pro-Western government in Kiev (which Putin has described as “illegitimate&#8221.

There are good reasons for Belarus to feel threatened. It does not have any single enclave with a majority ethnic-Russian population like Crimea, although approximately eight percent of the population in eastern Belarus is ethnically Russian. But Russia is the dominant language across all of Belarus. According to Putin’s reasoning for seizing Crimea, even Belarus could one day be a target of Russian pressure. (It’s similarly plausible, if not even more likely, that Russia would stage an intervention in Kazakhstan’s Russian-speaking north.)

Even if it is unlikely that Russia would invade Belarus anytime soon, Lukashenko does have reason to worry about the consequences of joining Putin’s Eurasian Union. For one, Lukashenko may already sense that the Eurasian Union won’t be the economic boon for Belarus that he had once imagined. Although he may have hoped that it would provide an open market for cheap Belarusian goods, its precursor, the Customs Union, has so far underscored that Belarusian goods have difficulties competing in a free market, even with goods produced in Russia or Kazakhstan.

Further, even as Russia talks of creating a mutually beneficial partnership, it has been trying to weaken the states around itself. Ukraine is not the only such example. Georgia and especially Moldova have come under pressure as they try to tie up their EU Agreements in 2014. The last thing that Lukashenko wants is to become another weak leader challenged by domestic revolt, often fomented by Russia, who then becomes dependent on Russia to survive -- as Yanukovych would have become if he had not overreacted to the protests in Kiev and been forced to flee, or as Serzh Sargsyan has already become in Armenia. Even worse, Lukashenko knows he could end up as a tin-pot dictator of a mini-state, like Yevgeny Shevchuk, the president of Transnistria, or Sergei Aksyonov, the new prime minister of Crimea.

Above all, Lukashenko wants to avoid having to make a decision between Russia and the West. He has always been happy to be Russia’s ally, but only as the leader of a strong, independent state capable of steering its own course. The key to his staying power -- he has led Belarus for nearly 20 years -- has been his ability to make the case, to his audience at home as well as in Russia, that he holds some bargaining power with the Kremlin. Belarus benefits greatly from Moscow’s assistance in the form of cheap oil and gas, and other Russian subsidies and scams that are estimated to add over 15 percent to Belarusian GDP. But, in exchange for that help, Lukashenko has provided services. He has made money for Russian oligarchs in transit trade through Belarus, supported Putin’s historical revisionism about the Soviet Union, and put down any hint of civil unrest that could spread to Russia. He suggests that no other Belarusian leader would be capable of doing the same.

Lukashenko’s economic model also depends on good relations with countries in the European Union. Belarus can’t afford to lose its trade relations with Latvia and Lithuania, for example. But Russia’s aggression in Ukraine -- and Putin’s suggestion that the competition in the region is zero-sum -- is now threatening to put those relationships in jeopardy. With a massive ethnic Russian minority population of its own, Latvia in particular understandably feels threatened by Putin’s Crimean gambit. Putin may not worry about worsening trade ties with the Baltic states, but Lukashenko must.

Russia’s annexation of Crimea could also have other costs for Belarus. In order to keep Crimea afloat, Russia will have to make substantial investments in transportation, water, and gas infrastructure. The money used for those investments will not be available for further Belarusian subsidies. If Russia’s invasion leads Europe to change its energy policy, that will also have a negative impact on Belarus. The Belarusian economy depends largely on its status as a transit hub for Russian oil heading toward the EU. Belarus’ biggest single source of income is its sale of refined petroleum produced from subsidized Russian crude. Sanctions on Russian oil, or increased oil production elsewhere that reduced oil prices, would hit Minsk hard.

It should not be surprising that Lukashenko has been demonstrably edging away from Putin in recent weeks. Belarus has started hinting that it wants better relations with the EU, agreeing in February to participate in visa negotiations with Brussels. But any shifts toward the EU are going to be a gradual process; Lukashenko is still a dictator, after all, who has little interest in meeting Europe’s democratic standards. For now, Lukashenko is inside the Russian tent looking out. And he is not about to head for the door just yet. But ever since Putin’s aggressive takeover of Crimea, Lukashenko has been more anxiously looking toward the exits.

Russia cannot afford to gain Crimea while losing more post-Soviet friends. Yet that is precisely what its behavior will do in the longer run. Countries like Belarus and Kazakhstan may eventually be obliged to recognize Russia’s annexation of Crimea -- if and when Russia absorbs the territory, they will have no choice. But those countries’ current silence speaks volumes about their present worries and future plans.
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http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/141048/andrew-wilson/belarus-wants-out

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