Who is more likely to be unable to travel... vaccinated or unvaccinated?

DennisTate · Sep 18, 2021

Collateral Damage said: ↑

I have been medically advised against getting the vaccine due to multiple autoimmune issues. Where does that put those like me? According to those who demand everyone conform to what they want, I am boot scrapings.

Me, it's my responsibility to protect me, no one else.

Since the vaccine obviously doesn't actually protect people from getting it, and some have no faith in their own immune system, then those who fear other people so much should just tote themselves off to a safe place.
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You may find out that your doctor did you a favour.

Businesswoman bans holidaymakers who have HAD Covid vaccine from her eco-retreats claiming they pose a 'health risk' to other guests and are causing pet deaths

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...holidaymakers-Covid-vaccine-eco-retreats.html

A landlady has banned people who have had the Covid jab from her holiday cottages claiming they are a health risk.

Sharon Girardi, 44, claims people who have been vaccinated are 'triggering' miscarriages, swollen testicles and nosebleeds in anyone who has not been jabbed.

The landlady claims guests will not be covered by her public liability insurance because they are taking part in a 'clinical trial'.

She has previously been backed by the Forestry Commission to plant 34,000 native saplings at her Blaeneinion estate in Ceredigion, Wales.

Furious locals now claim Ms Girardi is 'discriminating' against the 30 million people in the UK who are fully vaccinated against coronavirus.

Up to 30 people can stay at cottages and wood cabins on Ms Girardi's 'idyllic and secluded' 75-acre estate.
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Betamax101 · Sep 18, 2021

DennisTate said: ↑

Clown bans holidaymakers who have HAD Covid vaccine from her eco-retreats claiming they pose a 'health risk' to other guests and are causing pet deaths
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Fixed that headline. What possible relevance does some mad cow, antivaxx nutter have to your way of thinking? Does this seriously influence you?

DennisTate · Sep 18, 2021

Betamax101 said: ↑

Fixed that headline. What possible relevance does some mad cow, antivaxx nutter have to your way of thinking? Does this seriously influence you?
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You don't seem to have a very good idea of how Spike Proteins work and spread to people exposed to the people who are shedding those Spike Proteins.

Scott · Sep 18, 2021

Two doctors say that vaccinated people can make unvaccinated people sick
http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ple-can-make-unvaccinated-people-sick.589061/

Betamax has a naive willingness to believe when he reads mainstream info* and an a priori incredulity when he reads alternative info.

*
http://politicalforum.com/index.php...at-the-lies-furiously.583345/#post-1072353798

Joe knows · Sep 18, 2021

MJ Davies said: ↑

I think @Darth Gravus had a perfect response here:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...od-analysis-after-vax.588350/#post-1072658590
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Lol. He’s always got some bad ass responses I’ll give him that.

Joe knows · Sep 18, 2021

I personally hope that in a few years everyone can travel. Separation by class or who was wrong or who was right shouldn’t be the goal here. I fight vehemently for the unvaccinated right now because I don’t feel they as a class of people deserve to be categorized as lessers. That said, if the rolls were reversed I would argue for those who are vaccinated. So if there ever comes a day a president targets the vaccinated with class driven restrictions I will most definitely be on their side.

Scott · Sep 18, 2021

Joe knows said: ↑

Lol. He’s always got some bad ass responses I’ll give him that.
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He might have gotten a placebo.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-get-placebos-instead-of-the-vaccine.591094/

Joe knows · Sep 18, 2021

Scott said: ↑

He might have gotten a placebo.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-get-placebos-instead-of-the-vaccine.591094/
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That seems like quite the stretch

Scott · Sep 19, 2021

Joe knows said: ↑

That seems like quite the stretch
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It's too early to rule it out.

MJ Davies · Sep 19, 2021

Joe knows said: ↑

Lol. He’s always got some bad ass responses I’ll give him that.
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Yes, sir. That he does.

@Darth Gravus, we're talking about you! ;-0

DennisTate · Sep 19, 2021

Joe knows said: ↑

I personally hope that in a few years everyone can travel. Separation by class or who was wrong or who was right shouldn’t be the goal here. I fight vehemently for the unvaccinated right now because I don’t feel they as a class of people deserve to be categorized as lessers. That said, if the rolls were reversed I would argue for those who are vaccinated. So if there ever comes a day a president targets the vaccinated with class driven restrictions I will most definitely be on their side.
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Yes... I do too... I know of at least one major way to begin to get rid of graphene oxide out of our bodies......
once the problem with that substance is better understood.....

http://www.msm-info.com/#Cell Membrane

Cell Membrane Permeability

All cells (and all organelles within cells) are surrounded by membranes. A membrane consists of two layers of molecules situated opposite of one another and consisting of an essential fatty acid on one end, and a sulfur containing amino acid on the other end. The amino acids are interconnected in such a manner that they form a surface into which the proteins and other membrane constituents are inserted and secured. These proteins are necessary for the transport through the cell membrane of many types of nutrients and waste materials.

Sulfur bridges form flexible connections between the cells and the surrounding connective tissues. This allows the cells to retain their elasticity. When sulfur is in short supply, the cell wall hardens, and the cells lose their elasticity. The transport proteins of the membrane become locked, and the membranes become less permeable. This results in a reduced transport of oxygen and nutrients into the cells as well as reduced excretion of waste products from within the cells. This causes a shortage of oxygen and nutrients, and an accumulation of toxic metabolic waste products inside the cells. Reduced vitality and eventually degenerative diseases are the result.

Recent insight in free radical pathology has shown that the thiol (-SH) groups of sulfur containing amino acids can protect cell membrane protein chains from oxidation. But that is not all. Studies by Dr. Johanna Budwig have demonstrated that sulfur containing amino acids in cell membranes resonate with the double connections of the fatty acids, resulting in the release of electrons. Electron clouds are formed, which can move along the fatty acid chains. In this manner, electrical currents evolve which form the basis of all electrical energy in the body. This energy can be measured in heartbeat, nerve stimulations, and muscle contractions; in short, in all chemical and electrical reactions which make life possible.
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and....

http://www.msm-info.com/#Detoxification

Detoxification

MSM dissolves in many organic and inorganic compounds (1). Bound to the mucosa and split into an electron deficient group CH3SO2., MSM reacts with toxins, affects inactivation and speeds excretion (4). Furthermore, MSM enhances the permeability of cell membranes, making it easier for nutrients to be taken up by the cells, and waste products to be eliminated. Practically speaking, MSM drastically increases the ability of cells to excrete toxic waste products. Many health practitioners working with MSM will state that it is the most powerful detoxifying nutraceutical or pharmaceutical agent they have ever worked with.

A recent example shows the dramatic detoxification action of MSM. A young artist sought help in a psychiatric institution for severe mental complaints. Antidepressants worsened his complaints to such degree that he decided to look for alternative care. Microscopic examination of his blood using the Life Blood / HLB test showed that the man suffered from heavy metal poisoning caused by the paints which he used in his art work. This person subsequently sought the help of various traditional and alternative medical professionals who prescribed various pharmaceutical drugs, homeopathic and orthomolecular detoxifiers as well as bioresonance therapy. After one and one half years of detoxification the blood picture had somewhat improved, but he still exhibited severe toxicity symptoms (Figure a).

Figure a Figure b

One and one half years later, his blood had improved somewhat but his basic complaints had remained unchanged. On the advice of the author, this man stopped taking the medications received so far, and was put on high dosages of MSM (15 grams/day), supported by weekly Ayurvedic sweat baths to stimulate waste discharge. Two months later a microscopic examination showed that his blood had returned to normal (Figure b), and he indicated that, for the first time since seeking treatment, he had noticed a significant improvement in his condit
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But more and more information is coming out as to how serious the problem really could turn out to be.

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.or...s-vaccinated-people-are-dangerous-for-others/

Immunization expert: ‘Unvaccinated people are not dangerous; vaccinated people are dangerous for others’

World Health Organization European Advisory Group of Experts in Immunization former Vice President Professor Christian Perronne yesterday said that all vaccinated people must quarantine over the winter months or risk serious illness.

Perronne specializes in tropical pathologies and emerging infectious diseases. He was Chairman of the Specialized Committee on Communicable Diseases of the High Council of Public Health.

Confirming the rapidly deteriorating situation in Israel and the UK, the infectious disease expert stated: “Vaccinated people should be put in quarantine, and should be isolated from the society.”

He went on to say: “Unvaccinated people are not dangerous; vaccinated people are dangerous for others. It’s proven in Israel now – I’m in contact with many physicians in Israel – they’re having big problems, severe cases in the hospitals are among vaccinated people, and in UK also, you have the larger vaccination program and also there are problems.”

The current working group on the COVID-19 pandemic in France was reported to be “utterly panicked” on receipt of the news, fearing pandemonium if it follows the guidance of the experts.

Israeli doctor Kobi Haviv told Channel 13 News: “95% of seriously ill patients are vaccinated. Fully vaccinated people account for 85-90% of hospitalizations. We are opening more and more COVID branches. The effectiveness of vaccines is declining or disappearing.”

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Who will be unable to travel by 2024?

The vaccinated... (once the spike protein formula is understood).

The un-vaccinated....

I need to study all of this further????????

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