Who killed J.F.K?

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    I only found out about this scenario relatively recently. The idea that the JFK assassination was really an accident, Oswald was only trying to kill Connally because Connally hadn't responded to his request for his dishonorable discharge to be overturned and restored to an honorable discharge. JFK was just collateral damage and therefore the whole conspiracy industry is built on nothing. Here's a piece from 2016 laying out the case:

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-reston-jfk-assassination-target-20161122-story.html
     
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    ~ Yes I remember my parents talking about this theory back in the 1960s. This is indeed a real possibility. But of course it is not "sensationalized" and too boring to write a book.
     
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    That is an absurd theory, all things considered.

    JFK had angered and insulted the CIA, Connally had not.
     
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    It turns out the theory has been around a long time, since the 1960's as seen here in this piece from 1999:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/sep/19/arnoldkemp.theobserver

    Just a thought: Apparently Oswald didn't have anything against JFK so why put him at risk?, If he only wanted to kill Connally I think it would have been easier to attack him separately since there would have been less security around Connally being a governor and not the president.
     
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    The theory that 19 arabs with box cutters brought the attacks has also been around a long time, but that doesn't make it a valid theory.
     
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    why is that not valid? ...
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Because it is false.
     
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    please elaborate ...
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Get a dictionary. I'm using simple English.
     
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    what word(s) would like me to look up? ... either that or explain how 19 Muslims did not enter and take over 4 aircraft with box cutters ...
     
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    Oswald didn't act alone ... that's as far as I can take the theory ...
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    You're making the claim, and by the rules of logic, you must be able to prove that 19 muslims with box cutters hijacked 4 airliners that day.

    The government could not prove that and you cannot prove that. Sorry.
     
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    the preponderance of evidence proves otherwise ... your ridiculous claims have NO evidence ... no planes, nukes etc ...
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The preponderance of the evidence reveals that the official narrative is false. That narrative is intellectually bankrupt. It is bankrupt from a common sense angle.

    Yet you still embrace it. :roll:
     
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    we should probably move this to a different thread ... I would really love to see your evidence that 19 Arabs didn't crash 4 planes according to the official narrative ... your move ...
     
  16. Bob0627

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    Reverse burden of proof much? I have yet to see evidence they did according to the OCT. It’s their fairy tale they need to prove it, no one needs to prove a negative. It’s the same issue with the 3 WTC building “collapses” from planes/damage/fire or combination.
     
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    plenty of evidence Bobby ... you just refuse to believe any of it due to your beliefs and bias ... hand waving doesn't work in the real world ...
     
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    Yeah the US government’s word and they would never lie even if it makes zero sense. After all they did this because they hate our freedoms and a shot at those 100 hot virgins, right? You are so easy.
     
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    JFK assassination was a CIA sanctioned Mafia hit. They actually had a plan to kill him both in Chicago and Miami but both plans ran into snafus. Dallas was the ticket.

    There is a preponderance of evidence that Oswald was indeed a patsy as he said he was..........He was actually a very mysterious guy surrounded by very sinister people his whole life. I mean what kind of guy works for the U2 spy plane program for the marines then defects to Russia speaking the lingo well enough at age 20 to almost pass as a local? Then he defects back again......??

    All the doctors at Parkland describe the gaping hole at the back of Kennedy's head and MacClelland actually describes the Cerebellum falling out onto the gurney. Jackie retrieved a piece of Kennedy's skull from the BACK of the limo. Both orderlies at Bethesda say that some kind of surgery had been performed and the brain was missing......the autopsy was a joke and the photographer has stated those were not the pictures that she took

    The list goes on and on.........
     
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    how much evidence do you need that 19 Arabs boarded, commandeered and crashed 4 airliners? ... what would satisfy Bob? ...

    and it's 72 virgins btw ...
     
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    Evidence, like the legitimate kind. When everything claimed is questionable, contradicted or impossible, it's not evidence.

    http://www.consensus911.org/point-pent-3/
    http://www.consensus911.org/point-flt-1/
    http://www.consensus911.org/point-flt-3/

    H. Consensus Points about Hijackers on 9/11

    Point H-1: Mohamed Atta’s Mysterious Trip to Portland
    Point H-2: The Claim that ‘Able Danger’ Failed to Identify Mohamed Atta’s Probable Presence in the US in January 2000
    Point H-3: The Claim that the Hijackers Were Devout Muslims
    Point H-4: The Claim that Mohamed Atta Had Become a Fanatically Religious Muslim

    V. Consensus Points about Official Video Exhibits Regarding 9/11

    Point Video-1: The Alleged Security Videos of Mohamed Atta during a Mysterious Trip to Portland, Maine, September 10-11, 2001
    Point Video-2: Was the Airport Video of the Alleged AA 77 Hijackers Authentic? Official 9/11 Videotaped Evidence

    Sorry, I didn't get the fairy tale straight.
     
  22. Shinebox

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    sure Bob ... the 4 planes took off and flew to, I dunno, Area 51 so this big troofer fantasy could take place to start wars for profit ... got it ... a big elaborate hoax ... yeah ... got it ...
     
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    So all 4 airliners were not hijacked and flown to secret locations and disposed of with the passengers and crew ... then other airliners were used to do the damage seen (unless they were holographic) and then were a front for controlled demolitions on 3 high rise buildings ... excellent plan ...
     
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    ~ Lest we forget Oswald was a kook. He had self-destructive behavior and delusions of grandeur. Explains much of the "why" & "why not" as to what he did and did not do. The more you read about him the more you realize how strange his personality and behavior was.
     
  25. Bob0627

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    The above has nothing to do with the official unproven story about the "hijackers". Your juvenile statements defending the official 9/11 story are just that. Grow up.

    There is no such thing as a "troofer fantasy". There is an Official Conspiracy Theory about hijackers that has never been proven and it's being questioned by evidence that contradicts or makes the story otherwise not credible. It's called burden of proof. The US government has made official claims that have yet to be proven and the burden of proof is on the US government. Based on the many lies, contradictions, impossibilities and many other issues with their 9/11 story, EVERYTHING is questionable and nothing can be accepted as fact. That's why there is a demand for a REAL investigation into 9/11 and that's why there are currently (18+ years later) at least 2-3 federal lawsuits demanding a REAL investigation into 9/11. You bought it lock, stock and barrel, the majority did not for good reason.
     

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