Why and where did Jesus go away?

That's fine with me but what about the "Resurrection". Any Christian will quote you that "Jesus died on the cross, was buried for 3 days and rose again in a body. One of His disciples even poke a finger at Him to make sure he wasn't hallucinating.

And if Jesus was resurrected in a physical body, where is that 'body' now?

 

The "spirit of Lord " proceeds from the father ... not from Jesus .. so its not "his Holy Spirit" but the Spirit of the Father.

 

Each day Jesus in His resurrected form meets with everybody who dies......

and a percentage of those people He chooses to resurrect and send back on a mission to teach the world.

Near death experiencers in all cultures and nations are reporting meeting somebody who sure does sound like Jesus. The book and movie "Heaven is for Real" is arguably the most well known case of somebody meeting Jesus during a near death experience.


John chapter five....

18Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. 19Then Jesus answered and said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner. 20For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself does; and He will show Him greater works than these, that you may marvel. 21For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.22For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, 23that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.


https://near-death.com/chapter-6-resurrection-appearances-of-jesus-as-adcs/


Chapter 6: Resurrection Appearances of Jesus as After-Death Communication
BY KEN R. VINCENTPOSTED ON SEPTEMBER 27, 2019

 

That's alright, Dennis but I don't think Hindus, Buddhists and Muslims give a poop about Jesus, let alone be judged by Him. Because if they are judged by Jesus, they are toast, since they are not Christians.

While we are at it, aren't we all sons and daughters of God? I sure consider myself a son of God. If God created me, I am His son, isn't that right?

 

Perhaps he was resuscitated by Nicodemus and Joseph using herbal cures including Aloe vera after they untied him from the crucifixion scaffold (John 10:38-40). And after he was resuscitated perhaps he went to India with Doubting Thomas and is buried near Srinager. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roza_Bal

 

This is the kind of question that is asked when someone already has an answer in mind and has a motive for asking which is not to illicit an response that will educate; why not be up front and make your point, it will be a ,more interesting discussion.

 

what happens is part of God’s plan, don’t you know? ; as the Crusades used to say, God wills it.

 

The Holy Spirit proceeds from both the Father and the Son.

 

Not according to the Bible .. the "Spirit of the Lord" certainly does not proceed from Jesus.. and while we don't care what man made trinity doctrine has to say on the issue -- as the devils hands do not trump The Logos == you are wrong on that account as well

Filioque (/ˌfɪliˈoʊkwi, -kweɪ/ FIL-ee-OH-kwee, -⁠kway; Ecclesiastical Latin: [filiˈokwe]), a Latin term meaning "and from the Son," was added to the original Nicene Creed, and has been the subject of great controversy between Eastern and Western Christianity. The term refers to the Son, Jesus Christ, with the Father, as the one shared origin of the Holy Spirit. It is not in the original text of the Creed, attributed to the First Council of Constantinople (381), which says that the Holy Spirit proceeds "from the Father" ("τὸ έκ του Πατρὸς έκπορευόμενον") without the addition "and the Son".[1]

Jesus is not the Godhead from which "The spirit of the the Lord" proceeds ---- first because Jesus is not God .. nor the Godhead .. but even if we assumed he was . as Trinity dogma suggests .. the original creed has God still pre-eminent ... echo's of the early Church Fathers not yet fully shaken off .. the Early Church Fathers all (prior to 200AD +) believing Jesus was subordinate to The Father .. who art in heaven .. and whose name is Hallowed .. a name you have yet to figure out ... . which is interesting. Who is this Father Fellow ?

 

Since I'm not a descendant of Adam then I wasn't created by a god. And afterall our aborigines arrived here over 50,000 years before Adam's grandmother was a girl.

 

Yeah, why not.
My point is that the doctrine of Christianity has many flaws and things that don't make much sense.

 

Yes, according to the Bible.

He proceeds from both the Father and the Son. That includes Jesus. How can Jesus send the "Spirit of the Lord" to his Church if the "Spirit of the Lord" does not proceed from him?

Speak for yourself. The trinity is real and evident throughout the Bible. One example is Luke 3:22, in which three distinct entities are present at Jesus' baptism.

No, I'm not. See Luke 3:22 for one example.

Now THIS is heresy if I ever did see it... to claim that Jesus is not God... The Bible makes it very clear that if one does not know Jesus, then one does not know The Father who sent him either.

QED of what I just got done saying above.
See Luke 3:22 for one example.
See all the gospel accounts in which Jesus speaks about his father.

 

Jesus, however, didn't claim to be a god and didn't claim to be without sin either (Mark 10:1, and his biological father was supposedly Heli's son (Luke 3:23). But while maternity is a matter of fact, paternity is just a matter of opinion without reliable paternity tests, and his biological father could have been a Roman centurion as some have suggested. And he only claimed to be a prophet, although his parents and family didn't believe him (Matt 13:57).

 

Matthew 7:6.

I don't think this person is seeking faith.

 

Of course he isn't. He is seeking truth, not Hollywood productions and fairy tails.

 

Matthew 7:7-8.

 

What about it?

This is true but only in their own traits. And it's pretty vague.

Make yourself a little experiment - go to any attractive (to you) lady and ask openly but politely that she "opens" her legs for you so you can "knocketh" her. You can shove the Gospel with that exact quote in her face if you wish. And come back to us to tell what happened.
Deal?

Or may be another experiment - go to the White House and knock on the door. Ask that you come in just to look around and perhaps see the President. Then come back and tell us if you "received" an audience with Sleepy Joe, as promised by Mr. Jesus.

 

nothing about it it just is what it is.

Matthew 7:6

 

No it is not. It is subject to interpretation. 'Cause obviously it is not to be taken literally.
Funny thing is that religion matter.

When you come down from your high horse, then we can talk, alright?

 

how could it not be what it is it's literally what it is.

I've talked all I wish about the subject with you.

 

It is, for the ones who have the eyes to see it.
You know, one and the same object will be seen differently by the blind, the colorblind, the normal seeing person and the one with super color vision. The feeling of those 4 cases is quite different.
Ask and you shall receive. Yeah, right.

I think we can finally agree on something.

 

throwing hands up and crying "no no no" to anything that conflicts with the man made dogma you adhere to is not an argument for much friend

Me: the devils hands do not trump The Logos (Jesus) == you are wrong on that account

You: No, I'm not. See Luke 3:22 for one example.

OK .. so do you realize you are saying that the word of Satan carries more weight than Jesus with respect to the truth ? and well, no wonder you think the devil's heresy is Truth .. and are blinded to simple biblical reality that Jesus is not "The Father" and Yes .. Jesus spoke the word of God through the Holy Spirit .. its the whole point of the Logos .. John 1 -- emissary between man and God .. but that doesn't mean the Logos is not the Father .. hence why Jesus tells you that he is sent by the Father.

Lost in some web of your own creation friend .. black is white and up is down .. Do you not believe Ha Satan friend .. the "Tester of Souls" ?

 

Nope. His father is very clearly 'The Father'. (John 1) Jesus often references his father, as recorded throughout the gospel accounts.

 

Seems to be your issue, not mine. The Bible very clearly distinguishes between three different persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). All three of them were present at Jesus' baptism.

 

But who was his biological father from who he inherited his Y chromosome? Or was Jesus conceived by parthenogenesis and didn't have a Y chromosome? And if so, is that why Jesus didn't marry but preferred to have a relationship with the particular disciple he loved and who laid on his breast (John 21:20).