Just to be clear, I was working more off of conventional wisdom than "facts", saying that gays are in disproportionately "screwed up". I just intended to call a general discussion for the causes, not make any landmark claims. Indeed, they sure don't. Hence why we need to develop stronger support systems and reduce the stigma around being gay. Gays being unwilling or unable to seek medical help and having their sexual life pushed under ground is a serious problem, acknowledged by the CDC as a major cause of the HIV rates in the USA http://www.cdc.gov/msmhealth/stigma-and-discrimination.htm And we have evidence from other countries that have legalized SSM (or something close to) that their rates of HIV are lower than the USA.
Different scenario. As an adult, it's easy to go to the bar and "hook up". It's unfortunate that bars are one of the few places we have to go to congregate - would you consider a bar a likely meeting place for heterosexuals looking for long term relationships? The issue was particularly bad for me in school. As a high school student, I knew of only one other gay guy in my entire school of 3000 people... and he was totally not my type ;-P. I eventually learned of others after I had graduated though.
I was referring to the facts in the post, not your catchy title. Revealing how you interpret their speculation as some kind of fact. Here is what they actually attribute the higher rates to
Their "specualtion" was based at least in part on a 2009 survey. And honestly, doe it not make SENSE in your mind that a stigmatized class would have less access to medical support particular to their needs, would suffer from mental illness, would have difficulty forming long-term loving relationships and lead to risky behaviors like substance abuse and risky sex? When the extent of your relationships involves quick hookups with no strings attached so that you won't be revealed or caught by others, risky sex becomes the norm. This is the culture that many gay americans grew up in, and it persists, even in the relative decline of stigma in many parts of the country. I just find this to be intuitive and I applaud the CDC for putting it out in black and white.
The "facts" in my post were along the same lines as my title that summarized them. Although I'm happy you see me as such a viable source, we can really get some work done now . First, I have determined that you are a leprechaun. Now go bring me some lucky charms .
just check out the sheriff of Pinal county AZ to get a real good example I can't stop laughing my ass off and NOBODY ON THIS STUPID FORUM EVEN THINKS ITS FUNNY. no you guys are not that funny. i am funny.
Nope, being "screwed-up" is all your judgement and opinion. The higher rates of the different factors you listed are facts, whithout the judgement and opinion in your title.
Not the risky sex part. I see no connection whatsoever other than gays who engage in risky sex may be more likely to be rejected by their families.
Because "being gay" is a metal disorder itself, mutation of the mind from normal. Being gay = screwed up.
If you are so macho give me your opinion on Babeau...if you have the intelligence to research for hurdle. I'm not spoon feeding any of you youngsters find it out on your own. Btw ItS A NATIONAL story now matter how much Arizona law enforcement is screwed up. I dare you
Is that why we have sex Ed for heterosexuals? Because we don't think they get enough examples and good advice to do the right thing? Kids are stupid, this is not news.
You're so wrong about what you "think"... it is laughable. You can believe what you imagine for certain, and while I surely don't know much... I realize that you are just plain wrong about homosexuality being a mental disorder. I mainly want to share with others, a challenge to the foolishness you are propagating here.
Who is going to save me from this troll? So, you know that you are right and I am wrong. And because somebody, like "Johnny-C" tells me that I am wrong, I have to admit that I am wrong. This is what really really laughable! Yes, I am right, thinking that homosexuality is a mental disorder. Gay rights - the rights of some kind of mentally screwed up people - this is the foolishness you are propagating here. How much are you being payed for Gay Propaganda? You are here every day and night.
People like you represent the death throes of a dying movement which is losing all over the world. Every anti-gay law enacted somewhere is trumped by at least twenty peices of pro-gay legislation. You are loosing badly - that's the reality. You know perfectly well same-sex marriage is evitable for the western world, and the countries that criminalise homosexuality are beginning to repeal those laws and catch up with the rest of us (India). You bury your head in the sand and occasionally come up to celebrate a fleeting victory in Russia or Moldova, whilst we celebrate numerous states and countries who have recently legalised or are soon to legalise same-sex freakin' marriage!! Sucks to be on the losing team doesn't it?
You're mounted at the fringes dude. The only reason I am answering you here, is to leave enough data around your foolishness... to warn/alert those that step near you.
Talk about a loaded poll. When did you stop beating your mother? Why are all Christians stupid? Are Republicans 1: retarded 2. evil 3. the devil's spawn 4. All of the above.
Basically. It's not exactly a novel concept that people, and kids especially, will do things like have risky sex. And not just kids... I mean, look at african americans (and basically all of africa). The spread of HIV among african americans is much higher than any other racial class - is this a sign that we need to stigmatize them? Or a sign that we need to be focusing on cultural and medical programs designed to address the problems unique to their culture and condition? Stigmatizing homosexuals makes it more difficult for homosexuals to form long-term relationships, reducing the spread of HIV. It limits their access to healthcare and education sensitive to their needs. And yes, this is a particular concern for youth, the only group with HIV rates rising: http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/fastfacts-msm-final508comp.pdf It's a curious fact that countries in europe where homosexuality has been more accepted have seen a decline in HIV rates, a fraction of the rates in the USA. It's even more interesting that black homosexuals face more stigma than any other class of homosexuals, and they represent by far the largest portion of the increasing rate of HIV among our youth.
I admit that I specifically chose language to be inviting to the "1: retarded 2. evil 3. devil's spawn, and especially 4. All of the above" individuals, and would not have chose such language otherwise. I do believe (without facing much evidence to the contrary) that homosexual are disproportionately represented in substance abuse, HIV, depression and other illnesses, and I do believe that some of the various explanations on the poll are among the most substantial causes. In hindsight, I probably should have included another option "gay's aren't any more screwed up than anyone else" or something to that effect. For the record, I've never beaten my mother. I'm not christian - although I was raised Mormon, and while I don't consider myself evil, retarded, or the spawn of the devil, many have referred to me as such because I'm gay.
I would look at Britain fist. You soon will cease to exist as nation due to low birth rate and huge immigration of colored. Celebrate... Yes, looking at you, it sucks to be in a loosing team.
What nonsense. Gays get the exact same education as to how to protect from disease as heterosexuals. Stigma makes it no more difficult to form long term relationships than it does forming multiple, short term relationships. Gays have more unprotected sex with more partners because there is no stigma among gays for having more unprotected sex with more partners. Andrew Sullivan and "Virtually Normal" is losing out to Michael Warner and "The Trouble With Normal" among the gays. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_Panic! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtually_Normal:_An_Argument_About_Homosexuality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trouble_With_Normal_(book) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_theory Monogamy, long term, committed relationships, stable households, these things are important in the context of heterosexuality because of the children that result. Important to a woman who spends most of her life in the home, carrying, giving birth to, nursing and caring for her husbands children. Monogamy has no importance in the context of homosexuality for any of these things. Pregnancy and childbirth have no connection to the achivement of the homosexual orgasm.
Lets see, Spain and Portugal have .5% HIV infection rate and allow same sex marriage, while Germany with .1%, the UK and Ireland with .2% dont allow same sex marriage. Switzerland also doesnt allow same sex marriage, and have the same infection rate of the US, .6%. Saudi Arabia criminalizes homosexuality and they have a .04% infection rate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate. As well,
