Why are so many american christians hypocrits?

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  1. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    I don't recite the pledge of allegiance to begin with.

    I don't believe that we own allegiance to the state. The state owes allegiance to us.
     
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    Its you that do not understand. The only difference between a paster and a believer is that a paster is head over the affairs of that particular congregation. The pastor leads the direction of the Church, but deacons have the power to fire and hire, and the congregation votes. They are not "official entities" of that belief.

    So....I think it might help you to get educated before you shut religion out. The entities of belief for the Christian Church is God the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. A person's values are based in their belief system---not whether they are head of a church.
     
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    Atheism isn't about faith but about facts , we atheists believe what we see and what it is proven so faith is irrelevant.

    Why you are praying at schools ? I thought that because of separation between church and the state the only suitable places for such activities were homes and temples.
     
  4. StephenKnight

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    This is a problem with Christians today. They are good Christians on Sunday morning, from 10am to 11am, and then go home and act like atheists. I don't think that's a problem with "Christianity" as much as it is with "Christians", not doing their part to live fully according to their faith. You use the word hypocrite to define it; that's a fair conclusion.

    But you should take heed not to lump all Christians together. There are a great many Christians that DO live their faith fully, who are charitable, loving people, who do not want to dictate their views upon others, but whose primary goal is to live their lives for Christ. There are many Christians that do not take offense at other religious celebrations, such as Hanukkah. Many Christians have close Jewish friends; several Christians ARE Jewish.

    So yes, there is a problem with many Christians only pretending to be Christians during church services, and then go home and act in ungodly ways. Many Christians are arrogant, hateful, discriminating people. But there are still others that are truly pious, kind, loving, compassionate, tolerant, selfless, good people. You can find that with people of all faiths and creeds - good, honorable people, and bad people, bad examples. Don't lump them all together in one basket, though.
     
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    Simply not true. Atheism, without an authority figure/leader, cannot properly call for any religion to be "banned". You know what I mean? Atheists have no god to report to, no one that gives them a command to ban religion.

    There are surely atheists that want to crack down on religious expression.
    And Christians that want to enforce Christian rules in society.
    And Muslims that want to kill any Muslim that converts from Islam.
    And on and on.

    Likewise, there are atheists that don't want to lift a finger to keep someone from exercising their faith; they themselves simply choose not to believe.
    There are Christians that have no problem with freedom of religion, or people choosing to believe differently than they do.
    And Muslims that befriend and are hospitable to Jews and Christians, considering them almost like siblings under one father.
     
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    I disagree. The Constitution says that there shall be "NO RELIGIOUS TEST" for office. That means pastors, ministers and bishops have a right to seek public office. Although religion might be an issue for the voters, constitutionally it doesn't matter what your religion is or your position in the church, you can still hold public office.
     
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    Not really. While public schools should not have any religious affiliation to requirements, private schools and colleges are somewhat different. Public schools are open to all and taxpayer funded; private schools and colleges are exclusive, you have to apply there, get accepted, and pay out of your own pocket and attend there out of your own compulsion. That's why there are private Christian schools, Catholic universities, etc. A public school cannot require church attendance; a Presbyterian university CAN require it. A public school cannot have a class on the divinity of Jesus, a Catholic private school can.
     
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    I believe if there was no religion then society would crumble. Or we would be all living under a tyranical regime. If there was no religion in government then what would keep everything stable. Officials would only care about lining their own pockets. Morality would be completely up for grabs. Who would have the authority to say what was right or wrong. If you tell me government well then they could quickly change something that was wrong yesterday as right today, just to suit their own needs, as many already do, the more secular society becomes the more we are spiralling into a pit depraviation. We have higher divorce rates now, suicide rates are higher, there is more types of STDs' than there was 60 years ago. We have increasingly young single parent mothers. We have an increase of abortions. Yet, if you speak out against any of these things which are detrimental to society, you are told it is the individuals choice. The attitude toady if it feels right then it cannot be wrong. No one wants to take responsibility, society is trying to feed us the life of debauchery. Atheism is self defeating and pessimistic, it offers no hope. It also goes against the grian of our inner most being. Most people if not everybody feels within themself in their heart of hearts there is something more than just this life. People try and fill this void of searching with external pleasure, that afterwards leave them feeling numb and empty and in the search for another temporal pleasure. So that thevicious circle just continues. What is it we really are searching and hunger for.
     
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    nah i think it would just be better if you didn't employ psychosis wherever it suits you. maybe try reading?
     
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    yes but they have to pass every clause not just one. an official of a religion cannot separate themselves from that office, err go, they cannot meet the basic requirement for separation of church and state.
     
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    The problem is not religion. This is a missinterpretation! The real problem is a lack of critical thinking. In other words: Our religion does not allow critical thinking. Everything in this one book is true, and everything else isn't. If you take out this passage you can use that book for a lot of good things. But this one book says it's good if you remain stupid and ignorant. And I don't think that many people these days would invision this as a good thing.
     
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    the "No Religious Test" is designed to refer to that there shall be no discrimination as to denomination or whatever sort of their religion. it doesn't apply to being an inseparable entity of a religion.
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Unfortunately you are correct, at least when it comes to the vocal minority among Christians. I am a Follower of Jesus Christ, yet have never attempted to force my beliefs on others by any means and I do not know any Christains that do so either. Just as with Islam, it is a small minority that try forcing their belifes on others and in the process give the entire group a bad name.
     
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    In my experience Americans schools too soon focus for their students to become very knowledgable in one field, rather then giving every high-school graduate a general knowledge. All of the American college students I met so far in Europe have an impressive knowledge nobody locally could rival in a very specific field, yet somewhat miss so much what we consider general knowledge.

    People who went to America to go to college there, told me that their experiences in working with other students were odd to a degree. For some reason students had problems working together, because every student had some specific field that they were good at and weren't able to express their views to other students. The Austrian students had to play somehow the "translator" because they were thought the basics in either field and understood the viewpoints. They told me it was a rather odd experience, because they were not able to apply their knowledge in any field because some American was superior. However they always had to be the team leader, because the team effort would improve due to the communication which was now easier with the teamleader knowledgable about every field, but not knowledgable enough to really help out.

    I think the American overall situation might improve if schools would try educate the kids in as many fields as possible and just give them a taste of everything, and that way improve the general knowledge till high-school graduation. Let them become pro's in college.

    Our stupid system in Austria pretty much teaches us general knowledge even in college... You have to make a PhD or MD to really specialize on anything... :(
     
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    Then you are a rarity among American Christians, one that actually followers the teachings of Christ.
     
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    Actually my experience tells me I am the norm, problem is that it is noisy radicals that get all the attention. It is the same with political issues, the extremists get the most attention because they yell the most and the loudest, where as the reality is most Americans are moderates and more near the center on the issues.
     

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