Why can't capitalism stop its excesses, greed, and other damaging characteristics?

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  1. Ndividual

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    Nature eventually prevails.
     
  2. Ned Lud

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    Total bloody bullshit! It was caused, as you know, by the Stock Market crash - that or the Extra-Terrestrial Plot! Jesus wept! Where do the weirdoes come from?
     
  3. Ned Lud

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    I have nothing against freedom - get your storm-troopers off out backs and let's have some, even if you prefer a bloated tyrant not chosen by the voters
     
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    It means that Keynes is nothing to do with the fantasies your Masters live by, and never has been
     
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    Scary liberal is Keynes. All that animal spirits stuff must be witchery!
     
  6. Ned Lud

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    Have you no understanding of history at all? The people who caused the Depression obviously cared nothing whatever for Keynes, even if they'd heard of him, which is dubious in the extreme - just the quick buck, as always. Do stop talking brainwashed rubbish.
     
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    Your response made me laugh! Re-read
     
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    actually if you know history at all you know that Keynes was was very very well known all over the economic world at the time. If this is not true I will pay you $10,000. Bet on your understanding of history ?
     
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    what you are trying to say is the stock market crash marked the beginning of the Great Depression. The Depression lasted 16 years beyond the crash and was caused and prolonged by Keynesian interference for those 16 years. Now do you understand? With capitalist policies the stock market crash and recession never would have turned into a depression.
     
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    Just as Marx was - as a distant name. The American sharks didn't give a bugger for the nation or what might benefit it even under capitalism, obviously: they never have. Unlike you, I know enough about history not to make bets with bully-boys.
     
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    what sharks and when???

    the primary excesses of capitalism. Rapid economic growth lifting 100's of millions out of poverty but making the births of 100's of millions of poor people possible thanks to the excess wealth.
     
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    As you know, Roosevelt cured it by ignoring you
     
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    The gamblers on the stock exchange, as always, who never did a bloody thing for anyone, as the world knows.
     
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    Actually Roosevelt cured nothing his administration was known as the great depression and lasted 16 years until the day he dieduntil the day he died.
     
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    People trade stocks against other people who trade stocks. I have no idea what you have against them.
     
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    You seem all about emotion so far I haven’t seen one logical argument.
     
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    Read some Marx - the Manifesto would make a start - and work on from there, if McCarthyism allows it.
     
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    Why not cut all the BS and tell us if you are conservative or liberal and why.
     
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    The answer seems fairly straightforward to me.

    Political systems aren't separated in any meaningful way from the vast majority of money held by a tiny minority.

    Separate the influence of money (or at least do a better job), and our representatives will be free to actually represent the people that elected them.
     
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    Nah, our version of capitalism is at its core predatory, by design. Everything relative to profit margin must expand to infinity . Obviously eventually unsustainable.

    They sound like perfect capitalists then don't they, hypocrisy is the cornerstone of capitalism as practiced in the US.
     
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    Yeah, we just need to hang a label on ya pard; must be one of two.

    Then there will be no coherent conversation about anything; we got your label.
     
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    if you don't think capitalism and socialism are the choice we face why not tell what the real choice is?
     
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    impossible of course since capitalism is based on service to others ie your workers and customers. If you doubt it for a second start a business and offer worse jobs and products. Can the liberal predict what would happen?
     
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    Things won't expand to infinity but they will expand and contract with the demands of a growing world population...
     
  25. FreshAir

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    "Why can't capitalism stop its excesses, greed, and other damaging characteristics?"

    It's not capitalism, it's corporatism, corporations are not happy being profitable, they have to be more profitable then the year before or they can't sell shares


    it's almost like printing money, and to print more, they have to please the investors more then the employees or customers

    that and top management wants to be paid very very well, and that might mean less for other things like employees
     
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