Why Can't We Just Stop the Terrorist's Trucks?

It strikes me as this shouldn't be a hard thing to do. We've had a fairly sophisticated system of barriers around the White House and Capitol for some time now and there are devices that can shut down a motor vehicles engine from outside. There's also nail strips that fold up, like in parking garages, all kinds of things..

Why can't something like this be put in place everywhere that big crowds congregate. It wouldn't cost that much or be that hard, far as I can see.

 

Let's say you're able to stop the truck attacks.

Then the terrorists would find another way. Lighting crowded buildings on fire, and so on.

Terrorism happens, but terrorism in the west is not really something we need to worry about, since the yearly casualty rate is pretty much comparable to lightening strikes.

Better solution is to just stop worrying and get a grip on reality.

 

Or we could just stop importing terrorists.

How much would it cost to protect every bike trail and pedestrian pathway in NYC, let alone the country?

 

NYC was just a pinprick this time.

Not worth worrying about.

Worry that someone will next soon copycat the Vegas shooter.

 

You do know that most of the terrorists acts that had ended up killing hundreds have nothing to do with importing anyone but was done by nuts cases that was born here and they are hardly of only one religion either.

The federal building bombing that kill hundreds was done by a born American who was not a Muslim, the same with the LA Vegas shooting of recent weeks that the right wing anti Muslims do not seems to wish to talk about and we have a number of massive schools shootings that once more had nothing to do with Muslims or important terrorists.

The NYC attack is now getting must more coverage then the far more deadly attack in La Vegas it seems as that one can be pin on a Muslim terrorist and the La Vegas attack can not be so pin.at least so far.

Our pet rock president address the NYC attack at once with his vetting ideas but have nothing when it come to the La Vegas shooting.

 

Right, so lets bring in more, what's the difference right?

Mentally ill people and home grown violence is easier to deal with when Islamic terrorists, who are by no means "isolated cases of islamic terrorism", are not getting Willy Wonka immigration tickets.

 

Start with curing the common cold and then see what you can do about everything else in life.Trucks are man-made. Humans are produced by other humans. The frustration of man is man-made. Seeing as how we are responsible for all of those things, we ought to be able to stop terrorism if we stop making life so difficult for some and easy for others. When life gets tough by natural causes we pull together, but when some people are making life difficult for other people than we have to take sides and fight.

 

A tire puncturer that would lay in the path and be activated by the weight of a motor vehicle would cost about $200, so I'm saying that it would add about a grand to the total cost. Bike paths typically add LOTS more than that to the price of a road, and even a gravel walking path isn't cheap. This isn't the only thing you could have, those pop up barriers, again activated by weight, are another thing and just some strategically placed Jersey Walls (or something a lttle more decorative) might help. Hell, just a fracking TREE left unchopped down int the rigtht place might be all you need..

It wouldn't be totaly foolproof, nothing is, but it could help.

But hey, you're rigth, let's just declare Islam illegal and "deport" all the Muslims, yeh, that's the ticket

 

If you take sharp objects away from people who want to kill you, they'll still try to kill you.

 

Man is a wolf to man - Roman Proverb

No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity
But I know none and therefore am no beast - Shakespeare

 

So we should give them large wide paths with no barriers to roll trucks down on us? How much would it cost to put 2 concrete posts at the entrances to all bike paths. You could ride a bike right through but it would stop a car or truck quite effectively at least at that entrance.

Hell, we could make our CURBS higher.

I saw pictures of this path where they people were run down just this morning. It's apparently some sort of wide path alongside the river, It seems to have a metal guard between it and the main road.. Two posts at the beginning would have shut this guy out quite well, (it seems from the photo I saw)

 

Sure. Let's terrorist-proof the US.

 

Why not?

Nah, you're right, putting up some concrete posts which most people wouldn't even notice is just too much trouble. Much easier to pass a Constitutional Amendment seriously limiting our most precious freedom and then round up some 2 million people, most of them full citizens by birth (and you'll need another CA there, one allowing you to revoke by birth citizenship) and then deport them, (and you and I both know damned sight well you're not really going to deport them, as most countries won't accept deportees who were never there to begin with).

There's a movie I was watching the other day, called Imperium, were you in it?

 

On the contrary, it appears they're the ONLY ones talking about it.

 

Since you've probably not lived through life in a war zone (who of us has, realistically .. though some of us have extensive knowledge of these time periods), you may be unaware that at a certain point in hostilities, a nation has little choice but to declare those belonging to a specific ethnicity or nationality potentially the enemy. The standard fix is internment for the duration of hostilities.

 

Which is forever in this case, (how convenient). No, you're right, I've never lived in a nation that was doing that. I think that's because except for the truly disgraceful internment we did with the Japanese in WWII, (who went on to show us how right we were in mistrusting them by forming the most decorated regiment in WWII) that I can't think of any nation that did that or anything like it in modern times. I'm not sure that even the NAZIS did that with citizens of warring nations in WWII.

And ****, why should I go on talking, there are so MANY reasons this kind of thing is so UTTERLY wrongheaded on so many levels and this is SO obvious to anyone that puts even the slightest amount of thought into the matter that the REAL agenda of the people who want to do this is exactly the same as ISIS that I wonder sometime if I'm not talking to someone with the black flag in the bedroom

 

Yes a lot of mass murders done in the name of national security in the history of nations and in a lot of cases using the excused of religion or national origins for the cleaning out and the murder of whole peoples.

Interesting to find that we now have people who would like to go down the same path in the US.

Here I been proud of my country for most of my life thinking we would never act in the manner of such nations as Russia or Germany.

I truly wish I could in fact blame Russia an not some of my fellow citizens for these postings but sadly I think we have plenty of people who would cheerfully do mass murders if they was given the power to do so.

 

We've not, yet. Maybe they'll impeach this Hitler wannabe in time.

One thing about the alt.right you can't fault is their transparency, you can see right thru most of these people, right on through to the ugly agenda underneath

 

Frankly while Trump share to a remarkable degree the power to appeal to the worst elements in people souls with Hitler I question if he is anywhere near as bright as Hitler.

Even with Russian aid Trump seems limited to appealing to a small fraction of the population and hopefully we well get rid of the man in 2020 without him doing any unrepairable harm to the nation.

Footnote Russia is playing a very dangerous game in my opinion by helping place such an unstable and unpredictable man in the white house.

 

It is becoming a truism with Republican leaders that we are only saved from their evil by their stupidity, and our conservatives had best pull their heads out of their ideological asses and realize we never were the cloud-cuckoo land they somehow remember from a youth apparently spent in Disneyland.

Vladimir Putin loves dangerous games, he has played them all his life and he consistently wins. My concern is what Putin and Trump will do to us.

 

Go live in a war zone for a week or two.

The fey idiocy of those who've lived entire lives of well fed and complete safety, is deeply problematic.

 

alt-right ... haha. gawd bless ya

 

Only politicians get protection. Thats why they have no problem allowing people raised to believe that honor killings and wife beating is normal, to live with us. Maybe more gun laws would have stopped the truck.

 

We are stuck with americans who might turn into another Paddock. But we should not risk more american lives than necessary in order to just please the democrats by bringing in muslims. One american life lost from radical islam is enough to justify stopping all muslim immigration into the US, which risks the lives of our people. One death does not seem like much unless that person is a family member Then that one death has enough meaning to stop the russian roulette involved with allowing muslims to immigrate here. But for some people the loss of a few american lives is acceptable and not too much of a cost to keep the muslim immigration in place. Sound like insane nonsenseto me, but then I seem to have a high value for the lives of other americans, and some of us just don't as it is nothing more than just a number on a page, a stat, instead of a dead american with family.

Our chicken farmers are more responsible than our rulers. At least a chicken farmer will never risk his stock to predators, even if not all put bulls will kill his stock. He will just not take the chance on losing his ckickens, but we dont mind taking a chance with other lives. That is well proven and self evident.

 

Sorry double posting error see my next posting.