Why Conservatism isn't the right ideology to believe in now

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  1. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

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    Social Capital has been disappearing since the 1950's.......
     
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    yes, Dani Rodrik would want Donald Trump to be President, since he is not an economic conservative and social liberal as clinton is.
     
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    Only a fool doesn't understand just how fantastic Cuba is and the USSR was. Ask just about any young American white liberal and they'll tell you.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Too bad for you but it is likely that Clinton will win and with it Wall Street and banks own the government outright. Just say "Madam Wall Street" when you post about President Hillary Clinton. At least she'll get a lot more of those black super predators off the street into prisons and banned from government housing so at least some of what you want may come true anyway.
     
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    Read it again. Actually, what do you mean?

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    You sig is still balogna. And try looking at Hillary's POLICIES, not bs GOP gossip/propaganda.
     
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    While I doubt that is a position he would take, I'm really looking at his globalization paradox and what you said earlier. You can only have two out of the three, globalization,democracy, and sovereignty. What you're saying basically revolves around this concept. The rich globalists who have infected both parties now can't do everything. There has to be something else that can be done. So what if instead of globalization it was economic development? Why not then have Trump push for sovereignty and economic development? Simple as that really. This notion of Liberalism vs. Conservatism is not right, it's a bad way of talking about things. Rather this trilema illustrates it perfectly.

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    Do you know what Social Capital is?

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    Why too bad for me? I don't want her to win, as of right now I'm voting for Gary Johnson.
     
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    that is asking the oppressed to take it lying down without protesting.

    the people are aware the rich have used them, now they need Trump to return the favor. Donald is smarter than the average rich liberal and will use their hypocrisy to his advantage, because he is not arrogant enough to ignore the concerns of the little person.

    Americans went to the moon allegedly, we can do anything and have our cake and eat it too. We can have globalization, democracy, economic development, and sovereignty.

    globalization itself isn't bad, but when the rich are the middle men and keep an unfair share of wealth redistributed between countries for themselves through crony capitalism, it becomes a problem only Donald Trump can fix since he is a conservative man at heart and acts like a real man in his life.

    we can't have liberal women or effeminate beta males in charge when negotiating trade deals beneficial to America, because the rich will use prejudice as their excuse to be greedy.
     
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    Yup- now wth do YOU mean? I hate bs jargon, especially from ignoramuses...
     
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    Why is it bad for me when I want a different candidate to win?
     
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    That's a quite the fantasy world you have invented there.

    It appears you have invested all sorts of qualities into the Carnival Barker that don't really exist.
     
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    This, is the problem. This mindset of oppression.

    He's not smarter then the "average rich liberal". He just realizes there is a difference between the average voter and the average person.

    1. Allegedly?
    2. No we can not. Unless you want to argue that somehow.
    Why did you bring masculinity into this?

    Trade deals are beneficial when there is no barrier to trade but both actors aren't going to do that when all things are not equal. That's why the US sued Jamaica and Great Britain complaining that they both violated WTO agreements when GB gave preferences to Jamaica for Banana exports. Because the US didn't benefit from it.
     
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    contrary to popular opinion, most of the oppressed people are conservative and poor who tend to be white, not minorities or gays as the media tells us. their oppression needs just as much attention as the others.

    the average person is oppressed, the average voter is some rich liberal who makes money from outsourcing living wage jobs from the poorer half the country, so Donald Trump is smarter than them.

    because social issues like transgenderism are being used as distractions to the real problems, Donald Trump is a real conservative man who will not mislead the people where it matters most, and this is the economy.

    trade deals have never been beneficial to America because they have been negotiated by crony liberals beginning with bill clinton in the 90's.
     
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    1. They're conservative because they're poor.
    2. They're not as oppressed because of race, hence why they need race to go forward in life.
    3. Talking about poverty? How interesting.

    I'm going to have to ask for a source for your average voter claim.

    Of course things like Transgenderism are distractions. Instead of talking about serious issues, like how the US homeless population has an overwhelming number of LGBT people in it, we have to explain to people why Transgenderism isn't a real word. As for Trump being a conservative, what do you mean by that?


    Wait are you saying that Trade Deals came about in the 1990's with Bill Clinton?
     

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