Why do Americans think they are better than the rest of the World?

But true never the less;

First World War

"During the First World War (1914–191, many monarchs of countries from both sides were closely related due to their mutual descent from either Queen Victoria, King Christian IX or both. The most commonly cited example is the fact that George V of the United Kingdom, William II, German Emperor and Tsarina Alexandra Fyodorovna of Russia (Alix of Hesse) were all first cousins via Queen Victoria. Other countries who fought against William II in addition to Russia and the United Kingdom include Romania, whose queen-consort was Marie of Edinburgh, and Greece, whose queen-consort was William's sister Sophia of Prussia. Constantine I of Greece and Nicholas II of Russia, the husbands of Sophia of Prussia and Alix of Hesse respectively, were also first cousins of George V of the United Kingdom as grandsons of King Christian IX. Other first cousins of George V of the United Kingdom, whose countries were neutral during the war, were Christian X of Denmark, Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg (queen-consort of Spain) and Haakon VII of Norway (who was married to George's sister Maud of Wales)."

That wasn't enough so they joined up in groups and decided who was going to fight who is whoever jumped on this or that cousin;

""The Entente Powers or Allies (French: Forces de l'Entente / Alliés; Italian: Alleati; Russian: Союзники, Soyuzniki) were the countries at war with the Central Powers during World War I. The members of the Triple Entente were the French Republic, the British Empire and the Russian Empire; Italy entered the war on the side of the Entente in 1915. Japan, Belgium, Serbia, Greece, Montenegro, Romania and the Czechoslovak legions were secondary members of the Entente.""

So here we have a bunch of family members squaring off as to who gets to play or not to play in who's sand box. So when a 20 year old student assassinates a fat duke you all get carried away with yourselves and try to kill off a lot of each other. Bother, now that took a lot of brains didn't it. So tell me, which country did the United States have a "non aggression treaty"" with;

"Wilson's campaign used the popular slogan "He kept us out of war"

And as I said, what Wilson did just after he was sworn in in 1917 was come out with the "Remember the Lusitania" slogan;


"RMS Lusitania was a British ocean liner, holder of the Blue Riband and briefly the world's biggest ship (prior to the launch of her running mate Mauretania and her White Star Line rivals RMS Olympic, RMS Titanic and HMHS Britannic). She was launched by the Cunard Line in 1907, at a time of fierce competition for the North Atlantic trade. In 1915 she was torpedoed and sunk by a German U-boat, with heavy loss of life."

""The Germans advertized in News papers for people NOT to sail on the Lusitania because she was carrying munitions in her holes and marked for destruction;

February 4, 1915: Germany declares the water surrounding the British Isles a war zone and warns that all Allied ships will be attacked.
April 22, 1915: The German Embassy publishes a warning in some newspapers to tell passengers that travel on Allied ships is “at their own risk.” The Lusitania, a is mentioned specifically in some of the discussion about the warning in the week leading up to its departure.
May 7, 1915: The Lusitania is torpedoed and sinks, killing over 1300 passengers including more than 130 Americans.
June 15, 1915: The Board of Trade begins its investigation into the sinking. The claim by German forces that the ship had been armed is ruled untrue at the end of the trial in mid-July.

On 17 April 1915, Lusitania left Liverpool on her 201st transatlantic voyage, arriving in New York on 24 April. A group of German–Americans, hoping to avoid controversy if Lusitania were attacked by a U-boat, discussed their concerns with a representative of the German Embassy. The embassy decided to warn passengers before her next crossing not to sail aboard Lusitania. The Imperial German Embassy placed a warning advertisement in 50 American newspapers, including those in New York (see illustration).

Notice!
Travellers intending to embark on the Atlantic voyage are reminded that a state of war exists between Germany and her allies and Great Britain and her allies; that the zone of war includes the waters adjacent to the British Isles; that, in accordance with formal notice given by the Imperial German Government, vessels flying the flag of Great Britain, or any of her allies, are liable to destruction in those waters and that travellers sailing in the war zone on the ships of Great Britain or her allies do so at their own risk.
Imperial German Embassy
Washington, D.C. 22nd April 1915

This warning was printed adjacent to an advertisement for Lusitania's return voyage. The warning led to some agitation in the press and worried the ship's passengers and crew. Lusitania departed Pier 54 in New York on 1 May 1915""

""Salvage divers have discovered four million rounds of U.S. made Remington .303 ammunition on board the sunken Lusitania. This has now proven German claims that the Cunard Liner had been carrying munitions contrary to U.S. and British claims. The resultant propaganda campaign waged by the British and U.S. war profiteers stirred public opinion against the Central Powers.""

 

They had the same results that the offensives the British launched prier to the U.S. getting into the war.

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Which has to do with what???

 

See what you get for fighting in a family squabble!!!

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GGGGGGGGGGGGRRREEAAATTTTTTTTTT, one less mouth to feed!!!

 

Like I always said, when we haven't anyone else to fight we practice on ourselves. You don't like it, then get your puppy butt back up on the porch while the big dogs run!!!

 

Why should he. Francis Marion didn't take his orders from any of the, Let's stand in lines out in open fields and shoot at one another", either did he. Maybe you Brits should have been listening to Pershing.

 

I was trying to figure out what he was talking about, because I am not hearing reports of people saying, "keep them out."

It really is a shame that he cannot figure that out, and I'll bet there are a lot more like him, that cannot get beyond some things like that because their sub-culture is so skewed in its assimilation of reasonable understanding of inaccurate history.

 

WWI wasn't as blood bth because they didn't understand Armored warfare. It would after all be difficult to understand and or practice something the implements for which did not beome available in sufficient quantity to matter until the last year of the war. Rather WWI was a blood bath because the tactics for infantry in the attack hadn't changed much since Napoleon I was emperor of France. As far as that goes, until Ludendorf developed infiltration tactics in 1915, Julius Ceasar would ahve had little trouble recognizing the combat formations and theire employment as the Roman Legion of his day employed quite similar tactics to the formations of Napoleon.

 

Let's take a look at England's successes while fighting Japan, shall we;

1941–1945. As World War II progresses, Japan fights the British Empire and captures British colonies Malaya, Burma, Hong Kong and Singapore. Many British POWs die in Japanese captivity.

You have a REAL GOOD record of defeats there, Bubba.

 

Funny, the last Frontal assault I remember being ordered by an American was at Gettysburg and the order came from Lee who got his head handed to him. Interesting that England didn't take notice and learn.

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First, tell us what country you are from and we will start there.

 

Somebody else made a great post the other day that summed it up perfectly, and I wish I could remember what thread it was in because I'd just quote it. It was something to the effect of:

"6,000 years before America, the furthest society progressed was compasses and wooden ships. 200 years after the foundation of America, we sent a robot to the moon."

We also donate a (*)(*)(*)(*) ton of humanitarian effort every time anything bad happens somewhere else in the world, we liberate oppressed people from tyrannical regimes, and we routinely create and export more things than any other country that contribute to increasing the standard of living worldwide. And we do all these things without even so much as a proper thank you. In fact, most of the time, we just get pure hate and ungratefulness.

You're welcome, world. You don't deserve the stuff we do for you, but we will continue to do it anyway because we're a good nation of high moral character. And we have a responsibility to uphold our integrity.

 

A country isn't great because of it's government. It is, if it is great at all, great inspite of that government.

 

i read of some European military observer who was in the US for the civil war, and who reported that there was nothing to learn from the actions of armed mobs.

 

They repeated the mistake of not listening to people a few years later

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Kasserine_Pass

 

Interesting if I didn't know it already, so tell us who Patton listened to?? And while we are on the subject, who's brain child was Operation Market Garden?? Care to talk about that fiasco??? Wasn't Bernard Montgomery smart thought?? Oh YES, he wanted to stop ever 50 or so miles to resupply and let the Germans build up their defense so he could loose twice as many men he would have if he had just pushed on.

 

Your post assumes America is unique in this regard. Have you lived abroad? In most countries, patriotism is a normal part of the culture. The Brits, French, Germans, Austrians, Swiss, Norwegians, Swedes, Japanese etc... all consider their countries far superior to ours. And honestly, they have much they cite to support their beliefs because in many ways, their countries ARE much better than ours. But in many other ways, the USA is better. I've lived all over and I still like the good ol' US of A the best as far as an over-all mix goes.

 

one thing is many people in the us hav never gone to anther country to see what it is like somewhere else..most people have never been to more than just a few neighboring states away from where they live..i got 5 states left to see before i have seen them all..

 

Funny, the war was conducted on the European model, you know. line up in an open field, have your canon lay down their barrage, have your infantry in place, march out, fire a few times when within range then charge while your main body tried to flank them. So tell me what the Europeans did differently??

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Sorry, I was in the Navy and saw my share of other countries. You can have everyone I was in other than this one

 

But Europe had a pretty low opinion of any solider that was not European. The Civil war was a real transition, because for the first time on the battlefield, weapons could mow down troops at a rate unseen previously. Close order formations for combined firepower suddenly became a liability rather than a strength

 

Start by ignoring the request? If you don't care than don't bother quoting it. The claim was made before I happened along this thread, so my nationality obviously doesn't have any bearing on it.

 

Well I agree about humanitarian aid, and scientific achievement. The USA does not export the most, China does; they make like 2/3 of all the plastic (*)(*)(*)(*) in the world.

I disagree about helping countries against tyranny. Hell, the USA is fuelling the Syria carnage as we speak, and that's just one country in a long serial chain. How about helping get the Taliban back into power? Are they not considered oppressive anymore? These are just the modern examples.. Look back over the decades.

People aren't so much "ungrateful", but people see war crimes and that right there gives them a negative viewpoint. People don't think about AIDS relief to Africa, or even know about it, even though it is one really good, positive thing the USA, especially Bush, did. Instead, they see Abu-Ghraib images and stuff, and the double-tap drone strikes. People HAVE to be realistic and realize these drone strikes, and Guantanamo bay, are DESTROYING this prestigious reputation you're talking about. The USA is a good brand but we need some damage control if we're to restore its meaning.

 

Plus we introduced the Ironclads to Navel warfare

 

Close but no cigar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ironclad_Gloire

 

I usually start by tell a person what we did for THEIR country.


Category

Total U.S. Private Assistance $71.2 billion
Foundations $3.4 billion
Private and Voluntary Organizations (e.g., NGOs) $9.7 billion
Universities and Colleges $1.7 billion
Religious Organizations $4.5 billion
Corporations $4.9 billion
Remittances from immigrant workers $47.0 billion


Amounts

In fiscal year 2011, the U.S. government allocated the following amounts for aid:

Total economic and military assistance: $49.5 billion
Total military assistance: $17.8 billion
Total economic assistance: $31.7 billion of which, USAID assistance: $14.1 billion

 

Well, our cultural heritage is European, and from that perspective Columbus did "discover" this continent. What happened to the natives as we invaded was tragic, but then it's also history now and there's no changing it..

 

Sorry;

A 5,630-ton broadside ironclad, she had a wooden hull. Her 12 cm-thick (4.7 in) armour plates, backed with 43 cm (17 in) of timber, resisted the experimental firing of the strongest guns of the time (the French 50-pounder and the British 68-pounder) at full charge, at a distance of 20 metres (65 ft). Her official top speed was 13.1 knots but other reports suggested no more than 11.75 knots had been reached and that 11 knots was the practical maximum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Monitor

The Monitor was ALL metal, not wood covered with metal. If you wanted to go that rout we could say that old Ironsides from the Revolution was the first.