Why do blacks in America think that the Democrats actually care about them?

We've already established, upon seeing that -single- MLK quote (repeated over and over and over and over) out of millions possible, that 1. It was a reaction against Goldwater Republicanism, which didn't even win, and 2. that the attempt to tie supposed Republican racism to Goldwater is specious.

Now let's establish that not one leftist in the thread has even -begun- to address all the racist Democrat quotes posted here. Unlike the left, I suspect that the poster who cut pasted all those quotes will not bore and annoy us by block quoting them over and over and over again like you all do with that singular MLK quote. That all you googlers can find to found your case, that one MLK quote? Weak and telling.

 

People of all races and creeds get smarter and smarter, more resistant to propaganda, every year the internet exists. No idea what that means for "conservatism" but what I do know is that it's bad, bad news for the leftist propagandists who have been blaring out lies forever.

 

If you wish to be in denial, fine. It was from Ronald Kessler's Inside the White House.. Here is Kessler's bio. Would you like to call him a lair?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Kessler

 

Perfect example of a leftist puff piece, which I didn't read all of admittedly. But the operative facts tell us the following:

1. The King holiday didn't pass until there was a Republican majority in the house and a Republican President. That's right, when the Democrats controlled both houses, it didn't even get to the Senate.
2. Surprise, surprise, it -did- pass in 1983. So we really don't need the longwinded obfuscation and rationalizations that follow. The facts speak for themselves. Thanks.

So trying to bring that in as some example of Republican resistance or racism is beyond ridiculous to the point of being counterproductive. Hell the first paragraph in the linked article tells us all we really need to know. Keep on posting things that don't support your own arguments

 

yeah, and look how few Republican co-sponsors of the bill there were throughout the 1970s.

 

You're right, which is why more people are beginning to acknowledge the fact that southern Democrats of the past were all conservatives. People are'n't falling for the Right wingers "they were Democrats, so that means they were liberals" drivel.

 

Next, they'll claim that Lincoln was a Conservative just cause he had a "R" by his name.

lol!!!!!

 

Was Detroit not different when republicans ran it? Did riots not follow when they left? High debt? Population decline? All before imports made an impact in America?

Why do blacks always move to where republicans are in power if they run such low opportunity places?

I don't put much weight on votes. 90% of the public black white yellow and red has no clue what is going on. Me and you are not like most people.

 

Yeah, you did mention checks in the mail, and single welfare mothers and poverty. And things that happened in the 1880's.
What you didn't mention was why an individual black person in the privacy of the voting booth, votes the way they do.

Because the thread is about how Black people vote.
And the fact that all the other people of color in this country also vote Democratic may be related, don't you think?

Because that reasoning you gave really doesn't apply to any of those other groups, yet they also vote Democratic.
The only demographic that Mitt Romney won was White Males.

Why do you think that is?

 

It PASSED in 1983 under REAGAN with a REPUBLICAN senate. It FAILED in 1979 under CARTER with a completely DEMOCRAT congress. The end.

 

it failed under Carter and under Ford, because the Republicans wouldn't vote for it and wouldn't let it even come up for a vote.

if the GOP was sooo thrilled about an MLK holiday, how come there were soo few GOP co-conspors the bill and soo few GOP folks came to argue for the bill before the House and Senate?

 

They have the audacity to claim George Wallace was a liberal, so anything's possible.

 

I think I understand what's happening here.

Conservatives are not to bright. They think Republican= Conservative and Democrat= Liberal/Progressive.

so if Lincoln was a Republican, that MUST mean he was also a Conservative.

If members of the KKK were Democrats, that MUST mean they were also Liberals.

My oh my, how simplistic the Conservative brain is.

 

Actually, Romney also won white females, but your point still stands.

Basically, the only demographic that conservatism appeals to is whites. There's not a single other demographic in this country, Asians included, that conservatism appeals to. And of course conservatism doesn't appeal to all whites either (myself included).

 

In my area, those run about 3:1 white to black. And sure, dependent whites vote as dependents do just like blacks do, check in the mail? Keep voting Democrat.

For real? you just get weaker and weaker. As insightful and well-educated as my opinions are, I don't own a crystal ball. Who the hell knows why any individuals vote how they do? What I do know is that 93% of one group voting one way legitimizes the thread as a reasonable topic. Did you ever consider maybe offering specific disagreement with my points? Such as "I don't agree with this because..." as opposed to the tack you have chosen? That's generally the way reasonable people discuss things. I freely acknowledge that there are counterpoints to what I courteously posted in response to your request. Maybe deal directly with them instead of lazily trying to shoehorn them into the tired old "disagree with me = racist" narrative?

 

I agree they aren't too bright, but they know the difference. They know someone like George Wallace was not a liberal, and that the KKK has never been liberal.

They are just trying to dump the racism that comes from people who believe in the same ideology as they do onto the liberals. They think blacks don't know that it's the ideology that's the problem, not the parties.

 

So a book published in 1995, 22 years after Johnson died, contains a quote, and a juicy quote at that, that never appeared anywhere before without any provenance.

That's why I suspect that that particular quote is a fabrication. It's just too perfect to stay hidden for all that time.
Plus I don't think a one line quote with no context says very much of anything.

 

Yes, they think black people are dumb.

They think black folks will only pay attention to party affiliation, not actual values and ideas.

 

Part of that "getting smarter" is understanding when a propaganda group blares out an entirely party-based lie narrative (Democrat=civil rights, Republican= racist) through a compliant media for decades, then, curiously, the very minute the lies of Democrat civil rights purity and Republican racism start to surface in a big way, try to switch horses to some new "conservative v liberal" narrative of the same old lies, they are being sold a bill of goods.

 

It's always been about conservative vs liberals. The parties are irrelevant. Blacks know the problem is with the conservative ideology.

 

HOW? the Demos controlled both houses. You lost the point, go google something else.

 

Is it possible that the reason that the GOP loses in all non-white demographics, and especially in the black demographic, is that non-white people perceive the GOP as racist?

 

I have no doubt the low info portion of the left voting blocs may believe that. As for the rest of us in the center of all colors? Dream on. It's the same smelly, bigotry sauce in a new label. If the left wasn't composed of such dishonest, hateful, bigoted propagandists for years, this backlash wouldn't have formed and people may have been kept in the dark by the Democrats much longer. As it was, the left pushed the dishonest narrative way too far in labelling millions of people who didn't deserve it. That's wrong. Irony, and just evidences the truth in the old stock market cliche' "pigs get slaughtered." The left finally went too far in its endless propaganda stream. Reasonable people don't like being told they are racists merely due to how they vote or where they live, etc. Reasonable people wake up and speak out eventually.

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Sure, propaganda blared almost unalloyed through a compliant media for 50 years ends up convincing lots of people. Doesn't change that it's all based on lies though.

 

Conservatives think black people are stupid.

They think they will vote by party affiliation and not actual values.

That's why they make up this bull(*)(*)(*)(*) about how since Lincoln was a Republican, blacks should vote Republican.

 

So you think all people of color are not as smart as white people who can see through the propaganda.
And Jews are too stupid to see through the propaganda, too, and PhDs, another reliable Democratic voting bloc, are too stupid to see through the propaganda....

It couldn't possibly be that the GOP decided on "The Southern Strategy" and began lining up on the White Supremacist side of every dog whistle issue for last 50 years.............or is that just a remarkable series of coincidences?