Why do people vote for their own doom?

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  1. Scamander

    Scamander Well-Known Member

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    Once again we have arrived at THAT moment of complete ignorance. That same moment that allowed Hitler to unleash WW2 because millions of German voters assumed their vote for him would NEVER put them in harms way of his evil plans.
    (Even though these voters knew exactly what he stood for.)
    http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/elect.htm

    It's that age-old assumption that MY vote for the dictator WILL NEVER come back to bite me. Oh no, not me, I am completely safe! Oh yes, my candidate promotes gun-violence but rest assure that will NEVER affect me! My children are COMPLETELY safe out in the open because somehow all those extra guns in the streets (and their bullets) will miraculous pass them by.
    And pigs will fly.

    My fascist candidate has not in the slightest mentioned how he’s gonna give me a job but that's okay. I am sure that omission will somehow pass me by and I (the voter who thinks he lives in own universe) will still get that job although it is already clear it will never happen.
    But cynicism apparently overrules reasonable thinking.

    My candidate proposes I go to jail after having an abortion. Jail! I go to jail!
    But hey, I am sure that my fascist friend doesn’t mean me at all! Perhaps I just misunderstood him even though the words ‘’going-to-jail’’ literally came out of his mouth.
    But no worries, I WILL NOT BE THE ONE who goes to jail. Perhaps my neighbor will but I am COMPLETELY safe. (Yes doctor, go ahead with the procedure, I am just typing this up...)

    My white racist supremist candidate proposes to introduce water-boarding and ‘much more’ in relation to torture. But hey, I am not an immigrant so why should I be concerned?

    Wait, there’s a knock at my door. Oh, some men in black uniforms have arrived and they want to ask me some questions. Apparently they are displeased with some things I wrote on a political forum and now they are gonna ‘punish’ me for it.
    That's funny, I NEVER thought torture would come to my house. But now (to late) I realize that once torture is permitted by a regime it will spread like wildfire.
    In the end, EVERYBODY will be tortured in name of the great dictator. Men, woman, children (yes, yours and mine as well), everybody that does not abide by the rules and new-world order of the great leader.
    An I assumed I was safe once all the migrants were deported (or murdered).
    Guess I was wrong and COMPLETELY deluded.

    My candidate hinted at censoring free media but I didn't give a damn because I don't work in that business. Besides, I think newsreaders are overpaid anyway.
    Shame, I should have realized that censoring obviously means much more than just shutting down some media outlets.

    So, these are my lasts words before my eyes and tong will be ‘’censored’’.
    At least, that’s what the men in black call it...

    Now I realize what that means, what my vote for my fascist candidate really signifies.
    Now I know that dictators don’t take a break once they have conquered the fort. There ultimate aim is not one of power but terror.

    Power, once fully gained, is finite.
    Terror can last forever.

    The end.

    So do you think the above is a bunch of nonsense? is President Trump actually a nice guy who likes women and will never, ever abuse his position of power as described above?
    Hopefully we will never find out but the above is exactly why he might end up in the White House after all.
    Because people just don't seem to care about his monstrous ideas AND THEIR OWN FATE

    Let me write that again; People, knowing EXACTLY what Trump preaches, still vote for him and thereby ignore what that means regarding their own fate...
    Because, what Trump preaches, Trump means. Let there be no doubt about that. Donald Trump means every word of his despicable sermons and if he gets into the White House everything written above might come true.

    So why do people continue to ignore the abuse that Trump spits in their face?
    Don't they believe him? Do these people perhaps think that Trump is just preaching nonsense ? Well, he is but its nonsense he intents to execute once in the White House.
    So, if people do believe in what he preaches why do they still vote for him? They should realize it will come back to haunt them.

    But, as said, I think Trump-supporters simply believe it never will. Just like voters did in Germany before the war.
    Thus, Trump will get the votes of people who ignore the facts that will, in the end, affect them.

    I am afraid this ''mechanism'' could be the deciding factor in the elections. And it will send America (and the world) into an abyss from which there might be no return.
     
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    WertyFArmer Well-Known Member

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    Well if the Dems would have nominated someone better, you may have a point. Unfortunately, we are left with choosing between the person that has demonstrated her incompetence, and the one who we think may be incompetent but we are not really sure.

    hope you fell better now that you got all that off your chest. Holding that much hate inside isn't good for you. Hitler, lol......
     
  3. Scamander

    Scamander Well-Known Member

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    I did indeed needed to get that message out! (Don't worry, I am not hateful, just extremely worried)
    But really, are you still unclear who is incompetent and who is outright fascist? Because that would only confirm what I wrote.
    Open your ears!
    How can you still be unsure if Trump is incompetent? (not to mention a fascist pig)
    Hillary Clinton might be a flawed politician but for sure she wouldn't deport millions of (in her eyes) unwanted citizens, either muslisms or whomever.

    I thought we had established that as a fact. (as a minimum)
     
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    WertyFArmer Well-Known Member

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    Two things:
    1) Define fascist for me, in your own words, so I know what your definition is.
    2)Trump will not deport citizens.

    You are pretty good with this fear mongering stuff...
     
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    Scamander Well-Known Member

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    1) Fascist is; everything I put in my piece as examples of this. So, I answered that question.

    For me, fascism is NOT the mis-use of e-mails, or politicians who are money-laundering. These things are completely morally wrong and dispicable but they are NOT fascism.
    I make that distinction because sometimes things are called fascist to quickly.

    Like; Hillary Clinton is a fascist because she ''lied about her e-mail abuse'' bla bla bla
    Unless her actions were deliberately meant to hurt (kill) the American people ONLY THEN would I agree she is a fascist.
    I agree, her actions might have harmed national security but that still doesn't prove this was some sort of master plan to eventually turn the US into her fascist empire.

    Fascism, for me, is to deliberately target the destruction of a society and it's people in it (by violent means)

    2) Trump HIMSELF has claimed he's gonna deport all deport all ''undocumented immigrants if he were elected president''. (and that 'll be just a start)
    here's an example of such a statement (I didn't have to search very far)
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-he-would-deport-all-undocumented-126838527651.html

    What you consider fear-mongering, others might see as a warning. (I hope)
     
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    WertyFArmer Well-Known Member

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    So undocumented immigrants, not citizens. <--- this is an example of your fear mongering.
    Claiming Trump promotes gun violence, Claiming Trump is a white supremist, tying water boarding terrorists to immigration <-- other examples

    If what you wrote in your OP, is your definition of a fascist, then all fairy tales are fascist because you filled about 90% of your post with the wild images that exist only in your mind.
     
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    1) Even more liberal gun laws will only increase gun-violence. Trump supports fewer restrictions, thus he therefore promotes gun-violence.
    2) Anybody who wants to model his or her world according to preference of certain ethnic population is a racist! (Thus, if trump wants an America without Muslims he is, without a doubt, a racist and white racist supremist)
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    I lost all respect for Trump. He's a big ole baby. Last thing we need is a President that can't handle words and can so easily throw hissy fits. Good grief, his little "taking my ball home" act for the Fox News debates was embarrassing. If he doesn't like anything anyone says he'll just attack them like a child. The most immature man in the room. He has the 30+ year old uneducated white male vote and that's pretty much the only thing that got him here. Luckily for the country, he's a lemon, the data is not looking good for him, this is going to be a landslide victory for Hillary. Repubs pretty much chose the only candidate people dislike more than Hillary, lol.
     

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