Why do they let birthers keep going with Obama's Birth Certificate?

According to your link:

Notice how "issuing copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth" falls outside of the quotation marks? This is because she did not say that. They reworded and reordered the sentences. What they issued was, just read the letter that I have posted a couple of times, is a "computer-generated certified copy".

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For once, just use you own powers of logic and don't be sidetracked on issues of motive of Obama's opponents.

 

the originals were loaded into a computer, and that was what they sent copies of

 

Nope.........“We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawaii

On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama‟s request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies.
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In Hawaii when you request a BC, the short form is what you get.

Obama asked for and received a special consideration to get a photocopy of his original long form. Which you have seen, and has been authenticated, as I've shown.

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I've proven he has not. They were both authenticated.

 

Is Whitehouse.com still up?

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What 'race' is Obama? Do you know?

 

No certified hard copy of any birth certificate for the Usurper-in-Chief has ever been presented to any controlling legal authority to verify who he is or where he was born. A Controlling legal authority would be any state attorneys general office, the U.C. Congress or SCOTUS.

An image on a computer is not a legal document in any court of law, nor would it be accepted for obtaining a passport, firearm background check, cold medicine at the pharmacy, etc.

 

The only controlling legal body that can make the determination is the department of health in Hawaii. It certified both BC's as authentic.

None have any relevance to vital records. And congress unanimously confirmed his eligibility and election, twice. So did the chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

This is one of your more moronic strawmen.

 

he is black, but like most American including myself... he is not a purebred

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" A Controlling legal authority would be any state attorneys general office, the U.C. Congress or SCOTUS."

show me where even one other President has had their birth certificate verified by any of those

give it up, the birthers have already been proven wrong... now this just borders on ridiculousness

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Presidents born before the 4th of July 1776 were born to foreign born parents. Their parents were British subjects who later became U.S. citizens. Chester Arthur's father was foreign born. Some people also believed that Arthur was born in Canada. He never provided birth records. Before he died he burned personal records.

Martin Van Buren was suspected to be Dutch and his parents were of Dutch heritage. I believe Herbert Hover had a foreign born parent. More recently, candidates like Barry Goldwater, John McCain (born in the Panama Canal Zone) and Mitt Romney's father had their natural born citizen status questioned. The Senate passed a resolution in support of McCain's eligibility and the questions about his eligibility subsided. Obama released his short and long form certificates and Birther's claimed they were fake.

 

I sincerely doubt that.

 

That's another possibility.

 

Now you are just insulting me.

 

She didn't say that anywhere in the letter. What she said was it was a "computer generated certified copy". Y'all can go over and over saying the same things but it just doesn't pass the smell test. A copy loaded onto a computer creates create a picture file. You print a copy of it, not of a computer generated copy.

Now you are just purposefully leaving out the "computer generated" part.

Still, nobody has met the challenge. Where is the authentication from a document expert?

 

Nope.........“We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawaii

On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama‟s request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies.
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In Hawaii when you request a BC, the short form is what you get.

Obama asked for and received a special consideration to get a photocopy of his original long form. Which you have seen, and has been authenticated, as I've shown.

I've proven he has not. They were both authenticated.

 

Is that an image of a birth certificate? Is it a hard copy certified birth certificate?

How long do you think it would take for a teenage kid with a computer to make up a graphic that looks like an Hawaiian birth certificate for anyone and if asked, an image identical to the one you posted here?

Show me one president whose nativity narrative has ever been in question. SHow me one president who has not supplied historical documents related to his life, college, military, medical etc.

 

True, misleading and false.

If you had ever read the U.S. Constitution you would know how the earliest presidents were eligible to hold the office of president. Chester Arthur's citizenship was in question late in his term, his eligibility was similar to Obama, so you admit they were both ineligible. McCain was never eligible and never elected.

The rest were eligible since their parents were citizens at the time of their births and born in the U.S. problem solved,

 

Both the long and short forms were authenticated by the only legal entity capable of doing so.

Chester Arthur.

Obama is the only president or candidate who has ever provided a birth certificate. No president has ever released their college transcripts. Military records are irrelevant as are medical.

 

Arthur, McCain and Obama were of course all eligible.

You and Mario are delusional. Your made up definition of NBC has never existed in the history of the U.S. that's why you and Mario have lost every legal attempt. The argument is pure stupidity.

 

What? Why would you say McCain was never eligible? His parents were both U.S. citizens. My son was also born overseas of two U.S. citizens. He has never been a citizen of any other country, not even duel citizenship. The laws allow for this in the case of military, diplomats or others who are overseas. You don't have to be born on U.S. soil.

 

show me one white President that has ever been harassed as much about their birth after a birth certificate, both short and long form were provided AND the state certified their birth certificate was the same as that on file....

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Your son is a citizen of the U.S., without doubt. He is not a natural born citizen if he was born not within U.S. jurisdiction. If you were in the military or in the diplomatic corps, you would have been given information clearly stating if you want you child to be a NBC, the mother would have to return to U.S. jurisdiction to give birth if no military hospital was available.

U.S. military hospitals and consulates are considered U.S. sovereign territory. When McCain was born in Panama, there were no military hospitals available, so he was likely born in a Panamanian hospital and depending on Panamanian laws, he may be a citizen of Panama and does not have 'sole allegiance' to the U.S. as would be required.

 

Obama's race is not in question. For me, neither is his citizenship. I am questioning why he has provided 2 fraudulent birth certificates. No document expert has verified its authenticity. That has been my point. Both are computer generated. If computer generated birth certificates are what they have on file to certify, why don't they have a hard copy of the original which was made in 1961?

 

Show me one other president whose nativity was in question.

Your insulting remarks claiming me to be a racist has been reported.

 

My son was born in a military hospital, on a military base. That being said, this is not a requirement to be a natural born citizen. McCain is and always was a U.S. citizen. That means he is a natural born U.S. citizen.

The congress sets the laws regarding who is considered a natural born U.S. citizen. If one of you parents is a citizen, you are a citizen, no matter what country you are born in.

 

he did not provide 2 fraudulent birth certificates, that is a lie spread by the racists, don't believe them

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Yes, Hawaii did certify the long form. I don't know about the short form. I've never seen anyone certify that form. But certification is not the same as authentication. No document expert would ever authenticate the fraud that Obama put on the website which is a computer-generated certified copy. It is not a scanned or another facsimile or photo of the original.

Not even one person on this site has even argued that it is an actual copy of the original which was created in 1961. Who wants to tackle that one? Even Obama supporters can't say that.