Why Don't We Call THIS Terrorism?

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  1. Never Left

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    I suppose a distinction could be made, marginally. Its Islam a Satanic murder cult of criminality and cruelty in all places that Islam is. Its just how they have been, how they are, and how they will always be. And, its Samolia and Islamo state with an ineffective incompetent government, and since its piracy is a function of the state that makes it terror.
     
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    Haram... The Somali's are doing this not for Islam but for themselves. Somalia has many problems already regarding food and it's economy, having other companies come and steal their fish off their coasts isn't necessary. If that stopped, the piracy would stop.

    Most people would do the exact same thing if they were in the same situation.
     
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    Then they should take their case to the UN, as it is, they are Islamo's acting as Islamo's do. Tyranny, cruelty, injustice, violence, and terror. They do not want to change because they are not interested in being apart of the world community.
     
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    I don't see the terrorism angle to be honest. Somali pirates seem to be purely motivated by profit, like you pointed out already. Like piracy, terrorism has been around a long time, and they've always have seem to have been motivated by two separate goals.
     
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    Organisation and who they support.
     
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    Half truth (is that called kitman?) You know as well as I do that taqiyya also applies to Muslims who try to protect or advance the religion of Islam.

    It's in the Hadith. Let me guess, that's not a relevant source, even though it is second to only the Qur'an itself. Muhammad said, "Whoever changes his religion, kill him".

    Here, you said Wikipedia is a good enough resource. The question is, are you really denying that the punishment for apostasy in Islam is death?

     
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    No, it has nothing to do with advancing Islam. It has to do everything with a Muslim protecting his or herself from persecution and death simply for being Muslim. Like how Jews hid their faith during Nazi Germany, great example of the practice of Taqiyah. And that didn't benefit Islam in any way.

    I specifically said, show me verses in the Quran which say this. Not every Muslim believes the Hadith are necessary. Show me a verse of the Quran which says apostasy is punishable by death.

    If you bothered to actually read the source you quote, you would realized that the punishment for apostasy is widely debated. In other words, some think it deserves the death penalty others think it deserves less.

    I know the Hadiths which say apostates should be killed. What I want to know is where it is mentioned in the Quran.

    سلام
     
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    No problem with rescuing people held by pirates.

    The US isn't the only country to do this sort of thing. India's Navy has rescued a lot a fishermen on boats which had been hijacked by pirates. Pirates would use the crew for slave labor and the boat as a mothership to attack merchant ships. They are horrible people.

    The hostages rescued in this case had gone to Somalia to help get rid of land mines. The people the pirates were hurting the most were/are fellow Somalais.

    The reason why they are not generally considered terrorists is that they have only financial or criminal motive instead of political motive.
     

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