Why I'm Catholic

Understood. Yet, here we are now. With many different church bodies. Many with Christ as the head.

 

Yah...that's regrettable. :[

 

Like I said, it's no biggee. I just wondered. I understood baptism to be symbolic in nature symbolizing the death of the old sinner and the reserection, becoming new in Christ. Symbolic much in the way a woman dons her wedding band after getting married. It makes no sense to me to have a daughter wear a wedding band years before she even meets her husband-to-be.

I also believe that baptism should be done willfully by one's own accord and only after that person has satisfied scripture in Romans 10:9.

 

I think that's GREAT!

 

Catholics believe there are Sacraments that are both symbolic and actually have a spiritual reality associated with it. This is a difference between Catholics and most other denominations. Baptism is literally regenerative and marks the soul as belonging to Christ--it is not merely "symbolic" and that's why we believe you can only be baptized once. Just as Protestants believe the act of communion is symbolic, and Catholics perceive it as literal.

Catholics make the personal profession at Confirmation.

 

Unity is desired by Jesus.

John 17:20-23: [Jesus praying to the Father for his disciples:] I do not pray for these only, but also for those who believe in me through their word, 21 that they may all be one; even as thou, Father art in me, and I in thee so that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 The glory which thou hast given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, 23 I in them and thou in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that thou hast sent me and hast loved them even as thou hast loved me.

Mt 12:25: [Speaking of spiritual kingdoms, Jesus said:] Every Kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city, or house divided against itself will stand.

http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2007/03/communion-and-unity-biblical.html

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I used to be Catholic, but the masses are just SO BORING. Same thing, day in and day out. Couldn't take it no more!

Honestly, if the masses weren't so (*)(*)(*)(*) boring, I might not have turned to atheism....

 

Felicity said,

When I see letters marked off I assume its dirty. Was I wrong? And I made an observation…I am not looking for trouble. But they did delete it out…did they not?

Not at all. I came to throw my two cents in and have been told my heart is not right…my faith is not true…all because I am not a member of the RCC. I don't care who has gone out of their way to explain anything…I am not stupid. I can google your rules and regulations online and get anything regarding your faith. This is not new to me. I was focusing in on what you said….Felicity…and that was…nonmembers are not worthy to take communion…we get it wrong. In fact we get everything wrong….baptism, election, you name it. There are more things different really between our faiths than similar. I do not have to accuse you…..it's in your posts. Here wait I will repost one.

The fact is...you do not accept a non member to marry into the faith...you won’t let them take communion because their heart is not worthy ...why? Because yours is the one true church. Sean went on and on to tell me that protestant churches are basically wrong on everything....so what he did it in nice terms...the message is there.

Now this is plain and clear...what you think, what your church feels about nonmembers. We are not worthy...we do not meet your criteria..to share Christ. Let me ask you this.....would Jesus turn me away…? Would he say…Churchie…you got his wrong and that wrong and well…ya can't take communion.

You are all over the place here. The sad thing is that you don’t think Christ is enough. You need the building, works, rosary beads, confession booths, the Pope....etc etc...for salvation. What you profess is just not scriptural.



I got news for you Felicity I know the Lord. You are in deep sin when you judge my heart and that is what you are doing.

You talk about me being rude. What about your comment here in reference to Americas joke.

Listen it is a fact that the Catholic Church is the Church with money...the elaborate Cathedrals...yea right. Or were you slamming the Baptist, evangelical faith again? You are the one who implies that I am not saved….I never said you weren't.

If what you said was right...that nonmembers have it all wrong...that most are not saved...then the joke would ring true. You guys would be the only ones there.

AGain what about scriptures? Jesus said all who confess...can have salvation. It is the same for everyone on earth….woman do not have it easier…that is absurd.

That was Old Testament…was completely different after Jesus came.

Do you know what the Great Commission is? We are to go out and make disciples in all nations. Says nothing about setting up and building a Cathedral to save people. America is dead on....you do not need a Church, a Pope, a minister, clergy...gorgeous building with stained glass windows. You pray to Christ...you acknowledge Him...and confess and you ask forgiveness. When you do this, and only God really knows someones heart the Holy Spirit comes upon you and changes you....and by the Grace of God...NOTHING ELSE...you are saved.

 

So all of a sudden you went from boring mass ….to denying there is a God? There had to be more than that.

 

There are so many differences…its unbelievable. It's like we believe a completely different religious faith.

Answer this for me. How can a child at baptism so what you claim one needs to do? Where are children ever baptized in the scriptures?

In the Bible the act of baptism is first recorded in Matthew 3:2-12 when John the Baptist began his ministry. John was preaching to the Jews telling them that they needed to repent of their sins. How can infants do this? Matthew 3:13-17 records that Jesus came down to the Jordan River and was baptized by John. He was not an infant. He went into the water and was submerged…He came out of the water.
I was sprinkled when I was an infant. But I later realized that I had not made a public confession of belief. I wanted to do it like Christ did it. I believed I was dedicated by my parents when I was a baby…but I was baptized when I was older and could understand what I was doing. Submersion pictures the death burial and resurrection of Jesus. Going under the water symbolizes Christs burial…being raised out…His resurrection.

 

That must be why he turned the tables over in the temple. Unity.

 

well, learning that the world wasn't created in 7 days, that women didn't come from a man's rib, and that god is a real jealous prick, in the book of job--those things kinda contributed. but the boring mass thing was huge.

 

Please link me to where I said that. I didn't. False Witness.

What did you repost but my saying you don't agree with Catholic teaching (OBVIOUSLY) and that it would be wrong to lie at Communion and say you did with you "Amen?"

Your bitterness toward Catholics and Catholicism is what is sad.

Does the Bible tell us to correct error? Just being Biblical--something you said Catholics aren't.

The exact opposite to what you say here was said. EXACT opposite, so either you are not reading, or you are reading with the bigoted blinders and see what you are looking for while ignoring all else. Again...that is what is sad.

Again--You were told the EXACT opposite thing. You are bearing false witness all over this post.

Again.

The joke was a stereotype. The Catholics should rather be drinking heavily and playing BINGO. You have issues Churchmouse.

Wow....the hatred is great in this padawan. Peace be with you, Churchmouse. It's clear you need some.

 

That was due to the offense in His Father's house. The money changers were not there about reverence and religion--they were there about the twin gods Gold & Greed. Righteous indignation is ....well...righteous!

 

What an ugly and horrifying imagination: one head - different bodies. What are we doing? Why not to change this?

http://youtu.be/fmMu20RiwRA

 

name one with 'christ' as the head (leader)?

 

now anyone can see, they have been lied too

period

many have been lied too also.

What make catholics so stupid is they actually will die holding their lies, more often, than not.


"money can buy you love'

that's just stupid..... A child is born withou sin (having made a choice of selfish pursuit)

for example to say "Baptism is literally regenerative and marks the soul as belonging to Christ...... is a claim of a self centered mind, because they have accepted the false teachings as being true.

back in the first century, 'bathing' was a right of citizens, not peasants. Bathing was not standard but 'to bath' can be done, and each and all of us will feel fresh and whole.


That is what baptism was initially about; bathing!

and that garbage of symbolism reminds me of the godfather, that during the 'paid for' baptism, Michael was murdering the heads of the families.

I hate the rituals and they will end

both are for morons

'body of christ'

nature is god; eat of his body

i did

i did profess; truth destroys ignorance

 

it is what the catholics do!


ie... pedophile preachers and they paid off the disposition.

I say, let any child damaged makes the choice: Hand that child a glass rod, if he deams the atrocities so horrendous, he makes the choice whether to have that glass rod inserted in the perverts winkie, and broken.

Put that on tv during mass and i bet the 'spirit of god' makes it so them preachers think twice about harming a child, in such a way. Ie... using the fear of god, to f'ck the child


it is almost like watching a mind in felicity over lying about belief; just sick!

 

good for you

You dont take it personal to see that liars are breaking the law! We already covered that.

i like the brutally honest. You told me your opinion. I know i am capable of being both 'good' (to you a jerk) and bad (feeding cancer).

I find it 'good' to expose lies, as they appear. And to judge is what anyone and everyone can do equally.

So i support knowledge that enables others to see for themselves.

You like and allow items, that i dont. OK.

Telling a child that church is how to know god, in the context of catholicism, is a bold faced lie. Period!

I am a jerk, towards any claim that misleads in matters of life and death, god/nature, and the truth of what is real.

If you dont like how i go about it, then tailor up some sweet medicine and rip the lies apart, all nicelike, if you like.

But if even 'captain america' is going to tell me how to think, you best step aside.

i hate liars

always have.

Upsets me and most any god i ever read about.

Are you one of the bad guys, that likes lies, too?

 

We are proud of the Martyrs for the Faith.

Ritual washing is absolutely cross cultural and not simply "about bathing" for physical hygiene.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikveh

 

Certainly offenses to God still occur--this is all sad and a travesty against the Divine Perfection.

 

if the 'church' knew the instinct of procreaction is of the 'divine perfection', they would not create monsters.

A perfect flaw, to reveal the error of the leadership.

 

Much like I feel at Catholic mass. Where's Jesus when ya need him? LOL! (Probably drinking beer and buying pull tabs in the basement. LOL!)

j/k... just ribbin' ya. Have an awesome day.

 

so do i

confucius, copernicus, galileo, bacon, newton, darwin,


even ahkenatan, moses, jesus, and muhammad

i love them that gave of themselves for knowledge to evolve

there is that ignorance.


nostradomus???? Plague?!?!?!?


it was 1500 yrs later, and the populous still did not know (retain) the comprehension of bathing (throughout europe)


you need to stop and think for a bit.

 

Do you really think rape is about the instinct to procreate? Or that lack of sex makes monsters?