Why is Bret Baier still a host on Fox News?

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  1. cabse5

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    Bret Baier is a neocon and, IMO, neocons compromise about 9 percent of the GOP.
    Bret Baier is heavily into the Jan. 6 conspiracy and a Trump hater.

    Baier has two shows on Fox News. A Monday thru Friday show and one on the weekend which I avoid at all costs. Of course, Baier the neocon, had the neofascist Liz Cheney on his Sunday show this weekend.

    I like to call Bret Baier Chris Wallace Jr. since I expect Baier to go the way of Wallace.
     
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    The only reason people are up arms for Fox to ditch him now is because he dared question the Almighty Dear Leader. It isn't about conservativism. It's about the Trumpist religion
     
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    I recall when Leftists hated the guy.
     
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    How would you know if it's about conservativism since you don't know anything about conservativism?
     
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    lol...trumpist conservatism is an oxymoron.
     
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    Oh, so the progressive knows about conservativism?:roflol:

    Side note: The one thing neocons and progressives have in common is their high levels of authoritarianism.
     
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    What makes him a neo-con? Just curious. I do not watch his show.
     
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    I know a hell of a lot more about it than Trump supporters do. Definitely more than Trump himself does. But that's isn't saying much. A pet rock can accomplish that much.
     
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    Yet neither of them holds a candle to Trump on that measure.
     
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    A neocon is a fake conservative...The opposite of conservative. The neocon is authoritarian which is the opposite of the conservative which is libertarian.

    The libertarian says lets work it out and the authoritarian says it's my way or the highway (while they swear they're for democracy, wink, wink). The libertarian is for democracy and the neocon isn't.
     
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    Then you should take it up with them. I never had much issue with him.
     
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    Ah. You hated Trump's affairs, hum? You hated Trump's interference into free market capitalism, hum?
     
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    You mean none of them hold a candle to Trump's neo-authoritarianism, er, your redefined definition for authoritarianism?

    Side note: It's a big mystery to me...Why do neocons need to claim they're conservative when they're not and why do neocons need to claim they're not authoritarian when they are?
     
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    Meh, kind of. I mostly just cared about the fact that he was paying hush money, and that he coordinated with a publication to mislead the women involved in order to kill the story, but not that he had his affairs. Sure, I dislike it on an ethical level, but it isn't really a political concern for me.

    Yes. I was quite vocal about that. It was my primary policy complaint.
     
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    Well, Trump was authoritarian enough to regularly abuse the court system to try to take peoples' 1st Amendment rights away, you might want to look at what he has said about the Constitutional powers of the president (it's as authoritarian as you can possibly get), he regularly bypassed Congress's Constitutional authority, and he tried to remove the votes of 5 entire states to overturn the will of the people and install himself as an unelected dictator. So, yeah. He's pretty ****ing authoritarian. Why is it that Trumpcons play make believe that the object to authoritarianism when there's nothing they want more?
     
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    Trump taking away someone's first amendment rights like subduing the protestors at his presidential rallies?:roflol: Trump let them protestors speak but didn't let the protestors dominate, er, disrupt the proceedings.
     
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    The better question is, what makes you think you know what true conservativism is, bud
     
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    Like abusing the courts to say that it should be illegal to call his building plans ugly, or to publicly question his wealth. And a rally isn't a government proceeding. Where the hell do you come up with this ****?
     
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    My dad was a libertarian...a true conservative. He railed against authoritarianism, er, the opposite of democracy and the forcing of the people to do things against their will.

    I've taken the political battery of tests. I'm not a conservative because I'm almost a literal centrist. Actually, I'm a micromillimeter to the left and a micromillimeter to the authoritarian side.
     
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    A libertarian is not a conservative per se. A libertarian can be to the left or to the right of the political scale. For instance, I know many libertarians who do not want any regulations for immigrants whatsoever. The reason for this is they don't want any government interference. This would include drugs, immigration, business, roads, highways, schools, and pretty much everything else you can think of.

    Libertarians on the right are similar to the Libertarians on the left with the exception that only the Constitution, in its strictest definition, can regulate, but minimally. In all other areas, no federal government involvement whatsoever. No lemon laws, no consumer protection laws, etc, like those on the Libertarian Left.

    The opposite of the political compass is authoritarianism, but we will save that for a different discussion.
     
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    And, yet, you're a Trump cultist.
     
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    A libertarian may be right or left and are conservatives 'cause they believe in democracy. An authoritarian like neocons and progressives aren't conservative because they don't believe in democracy.
     
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    Trump is the most conservative president since Ronald Reagan.
     
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    I hate to pee in your cheerios, but most people here in the US, who can vote or not, believe in Democracy, whether they are "left" or "right." The disagreements are about how that democracy should look like, which is where most of the disagreements originate.
     
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    Trump is not a conservative, never has been, and quite frankly never will be. Trump is his own, and believes only in one thing, himself and really does not give a crapola about anyone else, especially the minions. He just uses them to get what he wants at any cost and any price.
     

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