Why is there an orchestrated effort to normalize and legitimaize homosexuality?

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by slackercruster, Feb 10, 2013.

  1. DentalFloss

    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    Sandusky was a mixture of heterosexual and pedophile. He's been married to the same woman since 1966.
     
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    Plus, boys were what Sandusky had easy access to. Pedophiles will typically victimize either sex, it just depends which is easier for them to victimize.
     
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    Then why are the elderly allowed to marry?

    The infertile?

    Those who don't have children or don't want them?

    Again your line of reasoning doesn't fly.
     
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    Tell that to his wife and children.

    You're attempting to raise pedophilia into the same category as two consenting adults. Pretty disgusting.

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    Sandusky had a wife a children of his own.

    Obviously he was a heterosexual male who was also a pedophile who targeted little boys most likely BECAUSE he had easy access to them.
     
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    It's no less a semantic game when you say they're gay and paedophiles. The difference is that your game is creating an association between the sexual assault of young children and the vast majority of entirely innocent homosexual men.
     
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    Bottom line, whether Sandusky is gay, bisexual or straight, he identified as heterosexual outwardly, and had a wife, and so wouldn't have been affected by a ban on openly gay people ANY sense if he had been a Troop Leader in the Boy Scouts.

    What's interesting is that pedophiles, as has already been correctly pointed out, do tend to be opportunists who get off on CHILDREN and TAKING ADVANTAGE, regardless of the gender of their victims. Many if not most of the abusers of underage boys claim they do not have any sexual inclination towards adult males, and so wouldn't fit the mould for "gay" in the real sense - especially not those who have female spouses/girlfriends like Sandusky. My only theory is that prepubscent boys are more "feminized" and thus more desirable for "heterosexual" (in adult life) pedophiles.
     
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    Because there was a long, orchestrated, world-wide movement to make homosexuality out to be disgusting, sinful, wrong, unnatural, and criminal...


    ...And it worked.

    This is merely undoing the damage already done.
     
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    There was no conspiracy to demonize homosexuality - it became demonized because people just perceive it as unnatural - any behavior or lifestyle that deviates from what is considered the norm by the majoirty is going to be seen as bizarre or unnatural by many people - that's a reality of life that can't be avoided, even with left-wing social engineering in "tolerance" people will still be people.

    Homsexuals need to get a life and just accept that many people will find their behavior bizarre - rather than use thug tactics and indoctrination in order to try to 'force' people to accept them.
     
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    Homosexuals have gone from being executed in some of the worst ways, medically castrasted, imprisoned, experimented on and sent to concentration camps to enjoying anything from mere legality (as from as recently as 2003 in the US) to full recognition of same-sex relationships under the law. And in the context of the wide world you still see that continuing "evolution" - from the death penalty to same-sex marriage. There is still work to be done, and far from needing to "get a life" we'd be absolute spineless cowards if we simply stopped fighting. If we listened to people like you and never got up and fought for our rights, it's not hard to envision a world where homosexuality would still be a crime.

    We didn't use violence like so many other movements in history, but merely a campaign of increasing our VISIBILITY and ceasing to be the scary enemy you couldn't see. We stopped being the scapegoat - like commies and witches - and people fast came to the realisation we aren't some insidious evil trying to bring society down.
     
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    Straight statutory rape whether it's man doing it with teenage girl or woman doing it with teenage boy are both bad and deserve = punishment. Homosexual statutory rape is worse because many gays were victims of homosexual statutory rape in youth and this causes adult homosexual conduct & transexuality. Punishment for sex abuse should be more when it's gay/lesbian & transexual. Gays are homolesters such as Jerry Sandusky & the priests who homolest boys-they are homosexuals.

    Transexuals are worse than the homos & most transexuals were childhood sex abuse victims. Many transexuals are child molesters as http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/ripti...p?ref=trending Transexuality is a sad science waste-if a man thinks he is a dog it would be bad for a Dr. to surgically alter his voice so that he can bark like a dog, train him to be a dog and put a fake tail. Sex change maimings which is mutilating some1 to make them fake members of opposite sex is comparable to trying to make a man a dog because he thinks he is a dog instead of a man.
     
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    Punishment for sexual abuse should be equal regardless of the sexual orientation of the predator. If a child is sexually abused by a heterosexual individual that child deserves the same amount of consideration as a child who is sexually abused by a homosexual individual.
    Also, Jerry Sandusky is not a homosexual, as has been stated many times. He is a pedophile which by definition is " An adult who is sexually attracted to children" according to the online Oxford English Dictionary. Your stated equivalence between homosexuals and child molesters is invalid.
    Where is the evidence that backs up your statement: "many gays were victims of homosexual statutory rape in youth and this causes adult homosexual conduct and transsexuality"?
    The link that you provided is broken.
     
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    Are you new here? Yes, yes you are. Funinsnow, up until very recently, has been adorning all of his posts with little toilets whenever homosexuality or a gay/lesbian personality has come up. That might tell you a little something about how well-off you are reasoning with him. He's wrong, of course, and essentially always is, but the best thing to do is just to ignore it.
     
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    It must be WELL orchestrated.....because the homophobes are losing.

    :)
     
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    Homosexual statutory rape is worse because this causes adult homosexual conduct & transexuality. Punishment for sex abuse should be more when it's gay/lesbian & transexual. Gays are homolesters such as Jerry Sandusky. Transexuals are worse than the homos & most transexuals were childhood sex abuse victims. Many transexuals are child molesters as http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/07/transgender_hotel_maid_gropes.php?ref=trending


    Vanessa Olmos, a hotel maid, allegedly attempted to fluff more than just pillows when she walked into a room of an Orlando-area Days Inn and found a 14-year-old boy alone. Police say she groped the boy, and told him "you hot" while the boy's mother was out of the room.

    According to The Orlando Sentinel, the incident happened on Wednesday, the Fourth of July. While his mother had left the room to check out information on local attractions, the boy heard a knock at a door followed by the words "room service."

    Olmos, 35, poked her head in the door and asked if there were any dirty towels. The boy said there weren't, and Olmos asked if he was alone. The boy replied yes, and she asked him how old he was. Then, according to what the boy told police, she asked "Can I touch?"

    "Touch what?" the boy asked.

    Olmos didn't answer, and just reached out and grabbed a handful of illegal bulge.

    "You hot," she told the boy after he stepped back.

    "You're weird," he replied, and then locked himself in the bathroom until she left.

    Olmos, by the way, is legally known as Christopher Olmos. She identifies as a woman, and has been living as such since moving form Mexico.

    The boy told his mother, and the front desk alerted police. The police also told police that there was no need for Olmos to inquire about dirty towels since she had already switched out towels earlier while the the mother was in the room.

    Olmos denied the allegation, but was arrested on charges of battery and molestation of a minor. According to Orange County's inmate database, she was booked into jail as a black male.





    It's right to be 'bigoted' against homosexuality, lesbianism and transexuality just as it's right to be 'bigoted' against drug junkyism such as cocaina smoking. Even if orientation doesn't change, it's best for gays/lesbians to be celibate and again it doesn't matter that it's found in nature because cannibalism is found in nature.
     
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    If you're pro-choice on abortion, then don't complain about my view justifying aborting unborn gays, lesbians and transexuals. World is better without sex change maimings and without gay/lesbian :toilet: behaviors. I support abortion if it can be predicted an unborn baby will be deformed such as no arms, no legs, but it must be mom's call.

    Harvey Bernard Milk and Methew Wayne Shepard have become 2 icons for gay groups but both mistreated others. With Harvey B. Milk gay/lesbian groups such as Laramie Project, Shepard Foundation’s Executive President Jason Marsden and Journalist Tiffany Edwards Hunt of Big Island Chronicle see nothing wrong with Harvey B. Milk committing homosexual statutory rape on a 16 year old boy and there’s a holiday after him in California.

    Not pleading the case of the 2 who killed Shepard in October 1998 but Methew Wayne Shepard a drug junky who mixed Ecstasy with antidepressants. Before that October 1998 day, Methew Wayne Shepard was regarded by many including friends as moody, obnoxious and selfish who rudely cut in line in front of handciapped while shopping. Other news is that Methew Wayne Shepard chose Univeristy of Wyoming out of all colleges but then insulted the college and Laramie. In August 1998, 2 months before his killing Methew Wayne Shepard falsely accused a man of a crime which was disproven by medical tests because nothing had happened. Excuses made by Shepard’s friends and family is his depression, PTSD, etc. Truth is before Methew Wayne Shepard was killed he was viewed as obnoxious, moody and selfish but after he has killed by 2 men, then he got hero worship as Harvey B. Milk has gotten when both were bad people who mistreated others and in the end were killed.
     
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    Whoops, there's the toilet again.
     
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    Everytime he posts in a thread he kind of kills it for me, especially when people start entertaining him and it veers into the realm of repetitive homophobic nonsense and calls for gays to be killed before they are born.
     
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    And then claims not to be homophobic.
     
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    When you start talking about about infertility or age restriction you brought the government to conversation. Who else supposed to enforce those restrictions?
    Moreover you have admitted the fact that regulation IS required for heterosexual couples.
    For homosexual couples no regulation or licensing is necessary.
    Thank you for confirming the fact that couples are fundamentally different.
    So you still have no argument about why gays should get exclusive rights they have nothing to do with.
     
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    Explain why you think the 1,500 or so rights relate directly and exclusively to only those who procreate and why they can never apply to a couple who cannot biologically procreate with eachother... Because you only need to ask prisoners, those who have been allowed deathbed marriages, the newly-wed elderly couple or post-menopausal woman, the woman who finds out the man she married is infertile but doesn't have legal grounds for divorce, and the couple who knew that they were infertile but were never required to disclose that information, to know that's bull****. Marriage has long been known to be about dignity and isn't denied to those who cannot or will not procreate.
     
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    You pro-life or pro-choice ? If you're pro-choice on abortion, then don't complain about my view justifying aborting unborn gays, lesbians and transexuals.

    Homophobia is good-right to be 'bigoted' against homosexuality, lesbianism and transexuality (worse than gays/lesbians) just as it's right to be 'bigoted' against drug junkyism such as cocaina smoking. Even if orientation doesn't change, it's best for gays/lesbians to be celibate and again it doesn't matter that it's found in nature because cannibalism is found in nature.
     
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    No, it isn't. Still, if you think it is, please explain further why you believe that to be so.
     
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    I am not sure whether 1500 is necessary, may be we should leave only 500. But it has nothing to do with gays.
    Those benefits are part of regulation, how else you going to regulate and license heterosexual couples? You can't force them to sign a contract, so you have to entice them.
    Government needs to regulate relationship between man and woman because such relationship lead to creation of new life. Since life cannot be taken away it is in everyone's interest to turn that new human life into educated and law abiding citizen.
    There is got to be something that regulates relationship between man and woman.
    Newly wed, elderly post-menopausal woman are ALL part of general regulation OF RELATIONSHIP between man and woman.
    I don't think it is hard to understand.
    Relationship between man and woman is unique so it needs to be regulated and licensed.
    All other types of relationships have equal dignity and fairness, if you want to add some benefits to those types I do not mind.
    But don't ask me to recognize relationship between two gays as something that deserves my attention.
    Relationship between two gays is not different from relationship between mother and daughter, father and son, two brother, two sisters, grandfather and grandchild, great-grandfather and great-grandchild. If you want to add more dignity, equality and fairness to those couples I am all for it.
     
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    That's an interesting topic you are touching upon; but it's not actually the topic here in this thread.
     

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