Why Islam's Shariah law is the biggest threat to American safety.

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  1. MGB ROADSTER

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    Former US Attorney General Mike Mukasey spoke recently at Temple Emanuel in Greensboro, North Carolina. “Isms all want to rid the world of something. Nazism wanted to rid the world of Jews. Communism wanted to rid the world of God. Islamism wants to rid the world of infidels - that is you,” said Mukasey.

    Sharia (the “path) is Islamic law. According to most sources, including the Council on Foreign Relations, shariah is made up of rules that regulate every nook and cranny of life - worship, marriage and inheritance, criminal offenses, commerce and personal conduct. “It is derived primarily from the Quran and the Sunna—the sayings, practices, and teachings of the Prophet Mohammed.”

    The bombings and shootings in the name of Islam, such as the Boston Marathon, Fort Hood, the “Underwear Bomber” and 911 are just one element of how sharia law calls Muslims to fight against those who do not accept their law.

    Andrew McCarthy, former federal prosecutor and co-author of Shariah: The Threat To America: An Exercise In Competitive Analysis, wrote, “American elites still deal with sharia as just a religious system, when in fact it is as totalitarian a political program as ever were those of communism, fascism, national socialism, or Japanese imperialism.”

    The Muslim holy book, the Quran, says that non-Muslims are “the most vile of created beings” (Q 98:6)

    Omar Ahmad, co-founder/Board Chairman of Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), in 1998 said publicly, “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”

    Islam’s sharia law is insinuating itself into our courtrooms, schools, prisons and every other aspect of society. The lever often used is one of discrimination against the precepts of shariah, while Christian and Jewish customs and laws remain.

    America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. From those foundational principles, Jews and Christians predominantly built this nation’s entire infrastructure from hospitals, universities and charities to the industries that made life better for much of the world.

    Islamic principles, defined by sharia law, are in absolute direct opposition to everything Americans believe regarding the law and civil society.

    How is sharia showing up in America?

    In a 2011 report, Center for Security Policy found 50 “significant” published appellate court cases where sharia law entered the court’s decision making. “Some judges are making decisions deferring to Shariah law even when those decisions conflict with Constitutional protections.”

    While later overturned, a New Jersey judge exonerated a Muslim man of raping his wife because sharia allowed him to do so. (The ruling was later overturned.)
    The Muslim Students’ Association - Muslim Accommodations Task Force has convinced at least 17 universities to have foot baths built or under construction, including Boston University, George Washington University and Temple University, and at least nine universities have prayer rooms for “Muslim students only,” including Stanford, Emory and the University of Virginia, according to USA Today.
    Illinois’ Skokie School Districts replaced Veteran’s Day with Eid ul Adha, a major Muslim holiday, in 2013.
    In Ohio, a Muslim death row inmate, Abdul Awkal, has filed a federal lawsuit arguing the prison system’s failure to provide halal meals is a restraint on his religious freedoms. His on-going case already succeeded in having pork removed from the prison system’s menu.
    This matters because the punishments and discrimination, especially against women, defy American principles of human rights, religious freedom, and equality of all before the law. Women must remain mostly covered, and under some interpretations completely covered. Female genital mutilation is practiced in some Muslim nations to protect chastity. Men can have four wives while women only one husband. Women receive half the inheritance of a brother and so on.

    Islamic Sharia law cannot co-exist with the American system of government.

    Andrew McCarthy wrote, “Shariah is not compatible with the U.S. Constitution. In fact, the forces of shariah have been at war with non-Muslims for 1400 years and with the United States of America for 200 years. While the most recent campaign to impose this totalitarian code began in the late 20th Century, it is but the latest in a historical record of offensive warfare that stretches back to the origins of Islam itself.”

    The unique American system of government as expressed philosophically in the Declaration of Independence and codified in the U.S. Constitution is based “on the laws of nature and of nature’s God.” This is the God who handed down a set of laws to the Israelites (Jews) and later through Jesus Christ (Christians) brought about a higher law that resides in the human heart.

    Inherent in God’s law – the law of Jews, Christians and the American system – is freedom, individual responsibility, peace, charity, goodwill toward all people.

    The Bill of Rights is but a restatement of the rights Americans knew they had as human beings given by God. They knew that all forms of government tended toward infringing upon those rights and wanted to ensure people remained free.

    The National Center for Constitutional Studies posts writings by John Quincy Adams, sixth president as well as Thomas Jefferson, as ambassador to France, and John Adams, as ambassador to England regarding their understanding of Islam. The latter wrote a four-page report to the Congress describing a meeting with the emissary of the Islamic potentates of Tripoli to Britain, Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, regarding the Barbary Pirates’ demands for tribute.

    Jefferson and Adams wrote:
    “We took the liberty to make some inquiries concerning the grounds of their pretentions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury, and observed that we considered all mankind as our friends who had done us no wrong, nor had given us any provocation.

    “The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the laws of their prophet, that it was written in their Qur’an, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Muslim who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”

    John Quincy contrasted what he learned from Muslims with Christianity and America. “The fundamental doctrine of the Christian religion is the extirpation of hatred from the human heart. It forbids the exercise of it, even towards enemies. There is no denomination of Christians, which denies or misunderstands this doctrine.

    “[Christianity] has mitigated the horrors of war - it has softened the features of slavery - it has humanized the intercourse of social life. The unqualified acknowledgement of a duty does not, indeed, suffice to insure its performance. Hatred is yet a passion, but too powerful upon the hearts of Christians. Yet they cannot indulge it, except by the sacrifice of their principles, and the conscious violation of their duties. No state paper from a Christian hand, could, without trampling the precepts of its Lord and Master, have commenced by an open proclamation of hatred to any portion of the human race.

    “The Ottoman (Muslim) lays it down as the foundation of his discourse.”

    Mukasey stressed that we should show respect to those Muslim voices that reject the imposition of shariah law, but remain vigilant against those who do not.

    When asked, “How can disparate communities come together for a greater good, in spite of our differences?

    Mukasey responded, “Together, study the Constitution, Declaration of Independence and Federalist Papers.”

    Knowledge of facts is the beginning of understanding, power and tolerance. Americans do not inherently dislike Muslims. They dislike repression, violence and inequality.

    Read more: http://communities.washingtontimes....aw-biggest-threat-american-saf/#ixzz2gv9rdx00
     
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    it is not the biggest threat
    90 million people on welfare are
    thanks to liberals purchasing voters with a chicken in 90 million pots
     
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    Sharia Law can never take place in America.
     
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    Mike Mukasey sounds like an idiot...

    Sharia law is not coming to the US..
     
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    Nice redirection.

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    Overly optimistic.

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    It's already happening.

    CAIR makes trouble wherever they can.
     
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    Takes a rare breed to be so paranoid, gullible and ignorant as to actually believe that Sharia law is the biggest threat to America and Americans.

    What an insult to every clear thinking American citizen



    Can't wait to see the millions of armed muslim American citizens and immigrants rising up in revolt (as per their constitutional rights?) to overthrow the government and the few hundred million other American citizens they live amongst. then upon victory, throwing out the constitution, completely restructuring the nation and topping it off with the institution of Sharia.
     
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    Are you crazy? Beit Din doesn't supersede US law either.
     
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    I agree 100% with MGB Roadster thread on Shariah law is the biggest threat to American safety. For those that state it won't be coming to the U.S. is sadly mistaken it has already begun I have spoken to young Muslims who have been taught.....yes .....taught....and believe in the Shariah law. Agree or disagree that is your right..................but keep vigil as it has started.
     
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    When your nation reaches 51% Muslim citizens start worrying about it. In the meantime, keep secular government.
     
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    Simple question ... what the hack has the Sharia law in Islamic States to do with American safety?

    Will you Americans like this unimportant General here really dictate the world what they have to do, which legal system they should have and in what religion people have to believe, or what is the nonsense here?

    Sure, you have you local law system which has to be followed without any question and exception, but you inside the USA alone have so different core values in 1 country with 50 states, you should better first look inside your own country before demanding something outside!
    But the real point is ... what is if a Russian or Chinese or Iranian General says the same about USA law thoughts and values to be the biggest threat for their safety? You give a crap about or will say that it is good to be their threat. So why should anyone give a crap about what this silly General means and tells?
     
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    I'm more worried about the 70% Christian population trying to enforce their own Biblical Laws than the 1% Muslim population trying to enforce Sharia.
     
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    Why be so stupid as to let it even get to .01%???
     
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    I don't see Sharia terrorists squatting in a bird sanctuary in Oregon. They're homegrown Yokel Haram
     
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    Would a possible parallel to Sharia law be the book of Leviticus? I'm not saying Christians enforce biblical laws as much as some Muslims might enforce sharia law, but couldn't a Muslim treat Sharia law like most Christians treat Leviticus?
     
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    I concur completely. We should be free to live a secular life free from the influence of religion. I've got no problem with people practising their religion as long as it doesn't breach secular law. I have a major problem if my life is going to be influence by someone else's religious beliefs.
     
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    The Muslims I have met in the U.S. do just that.
     
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    Come back in 50 years and we can discuss this very topic.
     
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    Sharia law good...get rid of homosexual and abortion problems....Christians can't do it so it's up to the Muslims.
     
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    I don't know why these basic facts are being willfully ignored by so many.
     
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    Because they fell the same way on the BS of faked Koran content and re-changed contents which is used by the Islamist scum to back their terror and believe what this terrorist scum takes to reason their terror 100% without using the brain and making an own investigation about Koran!

    if anyone would do so, it would give them an arsenal of weapons to disproof the Islamist and Jihadist scum to be liars and non-believers and faking the Koran!

    Example? Who are these "unbelievers" according to Koran again? Investigate this proper and you will find out that with this term are NOT any Christians and Jews rated to be!
     
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    This might make more sense to me if you could provide a link that spelled out the whole argument.
     
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    Let us about the Suras which tell how to handle Christians for example?

    Sura 2: 62 (The Cow, revealed to Medina): Christians and Jews have their worship with God for their faith and their deeds.

    Sura 2, 109: People of the "People of Scripture" will try to dissuade Muslims from the true faith. That is why Muslims are to avoid them, but forgive them.

    Sura 2,256: There is no compulsion in religion.

    Sura 5, 82 (The Table, Medina): Muslims should cherish Christians because of their faith and their humility.

    Sura 5: 105: Muslims should not care about other believers.

    I marked the term other believer extra, because there is a difference between unbelievers and other believers ... a fact much liked to be ignored! Other believers are those who do not believe in Islam but in an accepted other religion. Unbelievers are by definition of Koran those who we call with the bad term "Idols worship".

    Some uncomfortable facts for this Islamist-/ Jihadist-/ terrorist scum and much liked to be forgotten and more important, to be faked and told that unbelievers are also Jews and Christians these days ... but backed by nothing in their Koran!
    And then we use right this BS telling of this scum to back the hate on Islam as reaction of the attacks from this scum ... very smart and clever from us, eh?
     
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    Islam is easily twisted to do that sort of thing...and just quoting a few positive Suras does not obviate the negative ones, especially since only the "most learned" can even guess which take precedence.

    When the Christian Bible was finally translated into modern languages so the laity could read it for themselves, the church fathers objected strenuously, and for good reason. Any ignoramus can find things in the Old Testament to justify just about anything. Islam is much worse--it has no "Old" or "New" Testament. What Mohammed said on various days and in various situations is all Muslims get...and from a religious point of view Mohammed actually lost ground during his life, going from a rejected holy teacher in Mecca to a warlord in Medina. Christ rejected worldly power in his 40-day struggle in the wilderness, but Mohammed succumbed...yet his latter statements--the most vile ones--take precedence. To put icing on the cake, Muslims are not allowed to question/ie criticize Mohammed.
     
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    Really much worse?
    If you look into the bible with the New Testament it is a well done compromise of things which were put under Roman Empire leadership together, but real Christianity? Were there only 4 gospels really? We have so many different version of the New Testament in original and much more in different languages now!
    Right this language difference and changes over the times in bible happened also in Koran!
    Sure, Islam is somehow behind development and miss the secularism age at least and yes, Mohammed changed between Mecca and Medina but so what?
    We have still the fact that the terrorists fake the Koran and its content with wrong interpretations at least! Show me any Sure which tells that unbelievers are Christians and Jews! You will only find some interpretations and wrong translations to back this!
     
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