Why must we endure Religious Ideology Forced into our Faces?

And it's pretty obvious they never watched "Inherit the Wind" either; http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhr32y_the-power-to-think_shortfilms

They should take in a good movie sometime.

 

You know people like Pat Robertson and others...every now and then while Channel Surfing I might come across the 700 Club and might watch a few minutes of it and I CANNOT BELIEVE ANYONE COULD POSSIBLY BE SO STUPID AS TO FALL FOR THESE TV EVANGELIST CON ARTISTS!!!!

I mean they will take the money off some poor elderly woman who can barely pay the taxes on her home that only cost her and her husband $15,000 to purchase and now the town is taxing her $18.75 upon every thousand of that house that is now appraised at $225,000.00!!!!

These SCUM BAGS will take money from those who so desperately need it without a second thought.

AboveAlpha

 

I watch it every once in a blue moon too. It truly is sickening for people like this to take religion and use it for the sole purpose to make millions. It truly is the scam of all scams. It totally ruins the whole religious experience. Pat Robertson and the like are the reasons I would never be a part of organized religion. I see things more like Einstein, even though, I do believe in God; http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/642014-a-knowledge-of-the-existence-of-something-we-cannot-penetrate

 

The reward/punishment schtick is something most believers outgrow by the time they're teenagers. The dynamic that stays with them is an internalization of right and wrong. It's not right or wrong because they'll get punished, it's right or wrong because that's what they are, right and wrong.

All ideologies is more like it.

 

I would tend to agree with you but the facts are that some people don't outgrow this.

As far as all ideologies....only those people who cannot respect another right to believe as they wish.

AboveAlpha

 

There are plenty of religious conservatives that thank Pat Robertson's theology is lttle better than insane drivel. Good lord sir prosperity theology is little better than an attempt to convert the God of the universe into your own private genie in a bottle. On It's face it is absurd. And sure Jehovah's witnesses are jerks and Mormons are worse. The one's that visit you don't even know their own theology. There's a reason I tend to Ignore Beck when he talks about history and a lot of other things as well. We've located almost every city mentioned in the Old and New Testaments. We haven't found a single shred of archeological support for any of the history found in the book of Mormon.

Please not in passing however that the universe appears to us to be somewhere between 14 ad 15 billion years old. Of course it also appeared that Blackstone made the empire state building disappear on national TV some years back.

 

Ahhh...the Book of Mormon!

The believe that the Indigenous American Tribes were actually ancient Hebrews or Israelite's!!!

Yeah...they are not dealing with a full deck.

AboveAlpha

 

Try to use some of your reason and logic ...

Since religion cannot be forced on someone, in that nothing someone can do could ever force you to worship God ... Then there is no difference in forcing your opinions on someone else.
You want to limit discussion to your beliefs ... and force religion out of the conversation ... while fortunately no one is compelled to see that you get your desires satisfied over theirs.

You don't care about the other side any more than they care about your argument ... And what you want is no more important than what they want.

 

Daily I check Facebook for messages and crap. Daily I see pronouncements like "trust God" "have faith in Jesus" etc. It's real tempted to comment and say something like "you once believed in Santa Claus see where that got you", or some such thing. Me not replying with my opinion could be construed as me being subjugated (is that the right word?). I mean is it the same for me to express my anti religious beliefs as they express their pro religious beliefs? Shouldn't I be free to post my thoughts? Most of my family and Facebook friends would unfriend me if I did that. So if I have to hold my tongue to not (*)(*)(*)(*) them off why shouldn't they in turn have to hold their tongue to not discriminate against me?

 

I note you do not ask why we must endure political correctness....a far more oppressive insult to our freedom

 

Interesting analogy … the Santa Clause thing.
When I believed in Santa Clause … I received his gifts … and when I no longer believed in Santa Clause, I didn't receive his gifts anymore.

But that aside … and with the understanding that some people may not be able to make the leap between that comparison and religion … We can skip to another point.

You mentioned the desire of family members and friends to to encourage you to look towards faith in troubling times.
You then respond with the fact that you would like to cast doubt on their beliefs as a response to their actions.

Now of the two conditions related in your comments … Do your family and friends show the same malice that you would like to extend with your response to their actions?

My guess would be that they don't intend to bring any harm to you with their suggestions … where at the same time, you want to discredit their contributions.
Whether or not you want to maintain a relationship with them is your choice, and they cannot force you to believe anything.
If they choose to disassociate with you due to their preferences, then that is no different than if you choose to disassociate with them over your preference.

In acknowledging that they are no more obligated to respect your views than you are obligated to respect theirs … then it is rather simple.
If you choose to tell them that you do not believe … I am pretty certain that it will not change their faith in God.
Make the choice … If it is that important to you … and back to your original analogy … let me know what that gets you.

 

AboveAlpha, it's a two way street in this forum.

For every person trying to stick there religious beliefs in somebodies faith there are atheists going to religious themed threads shoving their ideology and mocking those faiths being discussed.

When one of the religious people then complain about pretty much the same thing you complained about, they are further mocked and ridiculed for their religious beliefs.

Very few people have respect for others beliefs (or unbelief) on this forum.

 

"Why must we endure Religious Ideology Forced into our Faces?"

Taxcutter asks:
Does that include the religion of AGW?

 

I'm against murder that makes me God? Queer world you live in.

 

The Queer world that I live in, is to not take part in GOD making decisions for everyone else.. That's your world, and that is the religion you push.

 

Science isn`t qualified to deny the existence of God, even though "scientists" may claim to be able to do so. For a "scientist" to state that God dosen`t exist, is akin to a small child, playing in a sand pit stating that nothing exists outside of his small world. Science can`t prove, or disprove the existence of God. In the big picture, it`s not so long ago, that according to science, the Earth was flat, supported by an Elephant. We can marvel at our own accomplishments, but we really haven`t advanced all that far since a black cat crossing our path meant that life was due to go pear shaped.

As an agnostic, I keep an open mind. There is an old saying that goes something like "to a wise man, life is a constant source of mystery, while a fool will have an answer for everything".

 

When you abort a child you are committing murder. That's more playing God than not wanting to allow it.

 

We need not endure any aspect of it...we simply dismiss it for what it is, giggle to ourselves, and torment those who decide to pretend they have a logical argument. There is no need to debase these people further, they have done enough already...let them be as they are, and enjoy it.

 

Health care is rationed. period. there is no system that man has created that does not ration health care. Our current system rations it on the ability to pay, if you have the money you get the health care. very simple. If you don't you die, unless you can get someone else to pay. see all those collection jars for Jr. or Missy in the convenience stores cause missy or jr. has Leukemia or needs a liver transplant? These people don't have insurance... they are about 99% likely to die because they cannot raise the money to get the needed treatments. If you don't have good insurance, and you get leukemia, you will need between $300,000 to $500,000 up front before you can even begin treatment such as a bone marrow transplant. The medications that might keep you stable will cost between $30 to $50 thousand per year. That's the real world that those without insurance face. And if you don't have really top notch insurance you are also likely to be toast. Yet this disease is over 90% curable.

 

So you are saying that since abortion is legal ... We are forced to worship God?

 

Another spin master I see.

 

Isn't it great to be anti-science and know nothing about it, while pretending you know everything about it, while playing God all at the same time to make the claim abortion is murder? Gotta hand it to the know nothing /know everything crowd.