I was kinda worried. After reading some of your posts I thought you may be serious. Now I see your just joking around.
Doesn't God know/knew everything before hand? Is he not omniscient? If God is truly omniscient, then all of it is a waste of time as he already knows everyone's fate. - - - Updated - - - Why didn't he just start with Jesus? Or better yet, not create man, knowing what he knew mankind would do before hand? - - - Updated - - - So you are saying, there are predestined in and now predestined outs. Where's one's choice in the matter? - - - Updated - - - And so, the future can change from what the timeless all knowing has seen? - - - Updated - - - There are some posters here so frightened they refuse to answer if 1+1=2.
Now we're back to the futile argument ala "if God is omnipotent (all powerful) can He make a stone so heavy that He cannot lift it?"
But you can't even find the water, which is why you very clearly dodged his question because you know you've got nothing.
You may have been possibly on to something with all the phenonema you wrote about. But then you box yourself in to a single religion that has nothing to do with anything you wrote.
I've written how many exhaustive posts along this line on this thread and all you got are 1-liner 'post-baiters that smack of whining! Go troll some one else....
What? Where did I say anything about omnipotent? But you're right, you should give up. You can't even explain your own belief to anyone.
But you aren't able to see that your "explanations" actually invalidate your argument. If an outcome is already predetermined, then free will can not exist.
To break this down, all known(free will) decisions are 'foreknown' and predestined. So in your mind, free will = predestined. Ya, I see the logic in that. /sarcasm.
Careful, one's head may explode. - - - Updated - - - Basically, the people here vying for theocracy leadership, proves we can't have theocracy leadership. We'd all end up in the nut house.
One 'Last, Last' itime" Because the 'timeless Being' sees all and therefore 'knows all, it is not 'predetermined' by the timeless Being but 'foreknown' (from the free will of the person and his choices in life) by the timeless Being, and as a result becomes predestined by the timeless Being!! Capiche??
Yes I read that the first time. What you are stubbornly dismissing because it invalidates your whole premise of for faith is that there can't be free will if an outcome is predetermined. If this timeless being of yours already knows what happens the will of the person in said scenario has no power to change it.
John 4:48 Jesus asked, "Will you never believe in me unless you see miraculous signs and wonders?" John 12:37 "Even after Jesus had performed so many signs in their presence, they still would not believe in Him." So even if signs & wonders were shown you, you of hard hearts will STILL not believe! And so my words wont convince you for sure... Forked & Done.................
Buddhists are more than welcome here in the USA. - - - Updated - - - bull(*)(*)(*)(*). freedom of religion was put in the Constitution in 1787.
Just because a guy shows up with a bag of tricks it's foolish to think he's a god. Acts 8:9-11 = https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+8:9-11&version=CEB Acts 13:5-12 = https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+13:5-12&version=CEB Acts 14:10-12 = https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+14:10-12&version=CEB
Perhaps this would be a good argument if not for the 80% of Americans which "self-identify" as Christian. If 80% of Americans acted in line with the teachings of Christ then I argue that this would be a better country to live in. Perhaps not the best argument once you realize that most politicians "self-identify" as Christian. Theocracies are devoid of lies? Theocracies are represented by man and man is fallible. Just because one has a religious title does not make them immune to sin. Has history not taught us this time and time again?
If true that would explain why slavery was allowed I suppose. In reality America was founded upon an amalgam of theistic and philosophical views but I argue that it was Deists who had the largest impact upon religion... the separation of Church and State.
All of those examples work well in their insular circles. But to apply any one of those theologies to all 300+ million people in America would be chaos. You a Mormon? If not then would you want to live under a LDS theocracy... or a Amish theocracy... or a.........
Human nature is a result of efforts to understand and cope with reality. It is a manifestation of awareness developed by information assimilation, trial and error, observation, and assessment. Individuals intuitively sense a need to strive towards some ultimate goal but few perceive a process that achieves fulfillment for both the self and the collective whole. Few perceive that reality has an underlying theme of progressive evolution that can accommodate both objectives comfortably. Baseness and corruptive pursuits result from shortcomings in awareness and are inevitable in a learning process that includes those who start from scratch, those who have progressed part way, and those who have regressed from previous gains. Naïve and deceived masses incur hardships and disadvantages because of domination and control by those who also have flawed awareness. The masses cannot overcome this stranglehold without elevating the awareness of many among them and unanimously disdaining the deviousness of the oppressors. Embracing the Rainbow: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379366&p=1064499046#post1064499046
True Christians have established for a long time their parallel societies and living firstly according to Bible, than to laws of a particular state. Most of True Christians wish a State with God as Ruler because most of states are criminal. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils in Government/submission-criminal_gov.htm
ISIS are Muslims. Islam clearly demands killing of non-Muslims. Christians are not obliged to force they believe to anybody, you can not any smallest verse in the Bible which proofs it.
Really?More and more Asians convert to Christianity. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ds-most-Christian-nation-within-15-years.html The choice of Chinese. The choice of Western People.
The Old Testament Law was written for ancient Jews and except morality is not obliged for modern Christians.